Chef Brett Sawyer (The Plum, Cleveland) on mental health, being "the best," and expressional cooking

Mike went to Cleveland to work on a collaboration dinner at The Plum, a restaurant helmed by his friend Brett Sawyer. In this special one-mic episode, Mike and Brett talk about how they became friends (spoiler: there's a lot of alcohol involved), their approaches to their respective expressional restaurants, mental health issues, and the value (or lack thereof) of media that claim to identify "the best" things in any given category.

The Plum:

theplumcafeandkitchen.com

instagram.com/theplumcleveland

twitter.com/theplumcafe

facebook.com/theplumcafe

Brett Sawyer: instagram.com/brettoliversawyer

For tickets to The Plummertime Good Vibes Cookout:

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/plummertime-good-vibes-cookout-ii-tickets-65065668165

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