When to break a line, Slushies. And why? What’s the shape your poem takes, and how does the poem’s form serve its complexities, subtleties, and heart? Three poems by Karl Meade are up for consideration in this episode of The Slush Pile, and they call the editors into conversation about trauma in literature, narrative (in)coherence as craft, and the pleasurable risks of stair-stepped stanzas. Poet L.J. Sysko joins the conversation on this  episode  of The Slush Pile as we discuss “Beach Fall,” “Christmas Break,” and “Doom Eager.” (If a tree falls in the woods, Slushies. Ammiright?)


 


At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, L. J. Sysko, Jason Schneiderman, Samantha Neugebauer, Alex J. Tunney


 


Karl Meade’s work been published in many literary magazines, a few of which he didn’t even donate heavily to, or previously serve as editor—including Literary Review of Canada, Tusculum Review, Arc Poetry Magazine, Grain Magazine, Chronogram, Umbrella Factory Magazine, Contemporary Verse 2, Event Magazine, The Fiddlehead, Open Letter, Under the Sun, and Dandelion. His work has also been mistakenly longlisted for four CBC Literary Prizes, shortlisted for The Malahat Review’s Open Season Creative Nonfiction Award, and Arc Poetry Magazine’s Poem of the Year. His novel, Odd Jobs, written as a solemn literary manifesto, was a finalist for the Foreword Reviews Book of the Year for Humor, and an iTunes Top 20 Arts and Literature podcast—“Laugh Out Loud,” one listener said of this grave work.


 


Karl’s chapbook “Doom Eager” has just been released in September 2023 by Raven Chapbooks, just in time for us to publish this podcast, which has waited longer than it should for release! 


 


Author website: www.karlmeade.com



Guest Editor: L.J. Sysko


 


L.J. Sysko's work has been published in Voicemail Poems, The Pinch, Ploughshares, Rattle, Best New Poets, and elsewhere. She is the author of a poetry chapbook, BATTLEDORE (Finishing Line Press, New Women's Voices series). Poetry honors include several Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg awards, two fellowships from Delaware's Division of the Arts, and poetry finalist recognition from The Fourth River, The Pinch, and Soundings East. Sysko holds an MFA in poetry from New England College.


 


X: @lj_sysko


Instagram: @lesliesysko


Facebook: @lesliesysko


Author website: http://www.ljsysko.com


 



beach fall

for Holli and Terry


 


Mountain to stone, prairie to sand, redwood to ash,


from here I can see the heart of the sea, but not the beach


 


he fell on. I can see the picture


window you sit in—waiting, watching the shore, iPad in lap, short-haired


 


Flossy at your side, the one who dug your dad’s


water bottle from under him. I don’t know why


 


you brought his suitcase to his wake


empty—what it was between you. Only he knew the words


 


you could not say. The doctors’ words for you—non-verbal, spectral—sent him


back to rage. He said they weren’t worth the hair


 


on a dead chicken, that aut-ism was just too much self for them to take


from you. He knew what his raging


 


love could do: four hours a night on the couch, talking


through your iPad. He called himself Manitoban, the prairie farm-boy


 


who watched his dog run away for three days, the rain-man


to lead you out, teach you how to mouth the O, the awe


 


in Holli. Yes, from here I can see the redwoods


fall, the mountains decay, his sea-bed—


 


they say all the big hearts of the earth


love where they fall, that his heart stopped


 


before he hit the beach. But we both know


why his mouth was full of sand.


 


 


Christmas break


for Doug and Arlene


 


The earth heaves, the ice cleaves. Erosion


cuts the heart from every stone, while every night


 


I watch you drive your family past a starving glacier, turn


from a truck laden with salt. You head off


 


the head on, take the bumper to the heart, leave


your family straining your lungs’ last


 


words from the floor of the minivan.


I’m on the floor beneath my desk, straining


 


to plug in the phone that I will blame for years: why


did I plug it in? Every night


 


I watch the driver’s stoned eyes, petrified as your broken


daughters in the back. Every night


 


I piece you all back together: brake, I say, turn


over and over while the glacier leaves


 


its terminal moraine. I gather the stones,


offer them to the moon, last witness


 


to your last turn. I turn


to your wife, try to face her head on


 


with what the earth knows:


core to crust, mouth to lung


 


the rupture comes, the rupture


stays. Every Christmas


 


she wakes to the words


brake, turn.


 


 


doom eager*


 


 


 


because one of us


took a spike to the lung


              a minivan to the chest


                           hit the beach with his heart


                                         to say nothing of the one


                                                      whose only breath was broken water


 


because I believe


              the hand, the wound, the moon


                            is how I show you where I fell


                                         through the hole I thought I was


                                                      diving for pearls through the green


                                                                    fuse of ice in my dream of you


 


                          because I run naked


                                        through the forest on a moonless night


                                                       with a penlight in the hand that broke


                                                       my mother’s heart waning at the seed


                                                                    of light the moon won’t show me


                                                                                   because its dark side calls all of us


 


                          because I believe


                                        I’ll find your heart in the east


                                                     your marrow in the moon


                                                                    fever just before the sun rises


                                                                                  I’ll swim for it all day forgetting


                                                                                               how the earth turns east south west


                                                                                                                       circling all night forgetting


                                                                                                                                                                                there is no moon


                                                                                                                                                                                in the new moon


 


                                                    because the only way out


                                                                  is my hand on your chest


                                                                                 I walk the shore all night


                                                                                              dream back the back of the moon


                                                                                                                                                              because the only cure


                                                                                                                                                                                  for the wound


                                                                                                                                                                                     is the wound


 


 


*after Ibsen, Graham, Moore: an Icelandic term for the isolation, restlessness, caughtness an artist experiences when sick with an idea