On this week's podcast, Bob's guest is Avery, the host of the "Crispy Soul Podcast". Avery explains what a "crispy soul" is, and then she and Bob discuss their adventures in outdoor recreation, how she got started hiking and camping, including mistakes made along the way. Avery also talks about how outdoor recreation helps her mental state, and general mental well-being. It's an interesting, informative and insightful episode! The Crispy Soul Podcast: Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit:  for more information. Hiking Bob on ,   and  Wild Westendorf on ,   and  Listen on ,  and 

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