Ordinary Equality
56 episodes - English - Latest episode: 26 days ago -The Supreme Court has done the unimaginable, repealing the landmark Roe v. Wade decision and stripping Americans of a fundamental right: abortion access. On the latest season of Ordinary Equality, hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson ask: what now? What does resisting bans and seeking care look like in a world without federal protection of abortion access? How can we build community and support the most vulnerable? How are abortion providers in states where abortion was already severely restricted working around the system? Join us as we decipher the future of abortion access and explore the stories of survival and resistance in a post-Roe world.
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Bonus from The Amendment: Keeping Democracy Intact with Nikole Hannah-Jones
April 03, 2024 10:00 - 35 minutes - 32.9 MBWe’re bringing you an episode of a new podcast we think you’ll love: The Amendment. A new podcast about gender, politics, and power from The 19th News and Wonder Media Network, The Amendment is hosted by award-winning journalist and 19th editor-at-large Errin Haines. Each week, Errin sits down with people who have fresh perspectives on the state of our country – and asks questions that center the voices of women, queer folks, and people of color. The Amendment adds much needed asterisks to ...
BONUS: Words to Win By: Protecting Our Freedoms
January 30, 2024 11:00 - 41 minutes - 38.3 MBToday, we’re bringing you another podcast from Wonder Media Network that we think you’ll love: Words to Win By. Hosted by renowned communications researcher and campaign advisor Anat Shenker-Osorio, this season unpacks real-world narrative shifts that led to real-world victories, from Brazil to Ireland to here in the United States. In the 2022 Midterms, Americans defied polling, pundits and precedent to stave off the predicted Republican “Red Wave” takeover. Despite significant challenges,...
Bonus: White Picket Fence Returns
March 22, 2023 09:00 - 34 minutes - 31.6 MBWe're bringing you another podcast from Wonder Media Network that we think you'll love: White Picket Fence. White Picket Fence interrogates the structures of inequity affecting women since America’s founding. On the newest season, host Julie Kohler investigates mothers as a political force — how motherhood has been utilized for political gain and why the identity of “mother” remains so politically potent. In the fall of 2020, a group of mothers gathered around a kitchen table. They were con...
BONUS: From City Cast Las Vegas: How NV Resurrected The Equal Rights Amendment
November 17, 2022 11:00 - 22 minutes - 21.1 MBThis is a special episode from the podcast City Cast Las Vegas that was originally released in October. The federal Equal Rights Amendment was a simple thing: An amendment to the Constitution to guarantee equal rights regardless of gender, for both men and women. But the bill languished in 1977 without enough state support... Until Nevada (yes, our very own Silver State) brought it back from the dead and ratified it in 2017 — thanks to NV, the federal ERA is back in play. And then, we took i...
BONUS: The Accidental Activist (Busy Philipps)
November 03, 2022 10:00 - 45 minutes - 42 MBListen to The Accidental Activist wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Isha is joined by actress Busy Philipps. Busy got her start starring in the beloved teen dramas “Freaks and Geeks” and “Dawson’s Creek,” but she does a lot more than acting these days. In addition to growing her online following, Busy’s been a huge leader in the fight against abortion restrictions. Isha and Busy discuss her decision to publicly and proudly share her personal abortion experience and how she’s...
Why Young People Were Key to Kansas's Win
September 14, 2022 09:00 - 31 minutes - 28.5 MBIn August, Kansas became the first state to vote on abortion protections since the fall of Roe v. Wade. And the opposition was fierce. But with a record-breaking turnout, Kansans voted to keep abortion access protected in the state constitution. This win was made possible thanks to grassroots organizers. Some of the loudest and most inspiring were from youth-centered groups. In this episode, Kate and Jamia talk to two of the organizers who mobilized young voters in Kansas. Local activist or...
The Daily Campaign: How We Talk About Abortion
September 07, 2022 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.3 MBIn 1971, a French weekly magazine published the Manifesto of the 343 -- 343 women who publicly announced they'd had an abortion when the procedure was illegal. The next day, a satirical paper called them the 343 "bitches." Three years later, they paved the way for the first legalization of abortion in France's history. The key?Talking about abortion -- campaigning for it in their day-to-day lives. In this episode, Kate and Jamia talk to one of the 343, who helped shift the narrative around ...
Rewriting a Constitution: What We Can Learn from Chile
August 31, 2022 09:00 - 28 minutes - 26.2 MBProtestors in Chile fought for a referendum on basic civil rights. And it worked. They achieved what the United States has avoided doing since its foundation: they rewrote the constitution. This new document faces ratification in a few days. And it could become the first constitution in the world to enshrine abortion rights as one of its founding principles. In this episode, Kate and Jamia talk to some of the folks behind this historic movement. They learn just what goes into rewriting a c...
Standing In The Gap
August 17, 2022 09:00 - 31 minutes - 28.9 MBAs abortion rights are downgraded from federally protected to locally enforced, a small group of people stand in the gap: District Attorneys. On today's episode, Kate and Jamia hear from Georgia's Dekalb County District Attorney Sherry Boston. DA Boston makes the case for why DAs can play an important role in the resistance, which is why she's vowed not to prosecute those seeking or providing abortions. If you’re looking to take action in the fight for access to reproductive care, head to ...
The Battle for Birth Control
August 11, 2022 09:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MBAs we gear up for election season, it's safe to say that the abortion access is going to be top of mind. But what do refrains of "Vote! Vote for me!" mean, when it feels like no one is willing to go to bat for reproductive justice? This week, Jamia and Kate listen in as Ordinary Equality's executive producer, Jenny Kaplan chats with her connection on the Hill: her mom, Rep. Kathy Manning. Jenny and Rep. Manning pull back the curtain on what it actually takes to engineer a Congressional res...
Abortion is Good for Business
August 03, 2022 09:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MBWhen Roe fell, eyes turned to a quiet – and undeniable – giant in the conversation on abortion care: corporate America. In a post-Roe world, an employer can be the last line of defense for folks seeking an abortion. And their silence can speak volumes. For the next few episodes, we’re talking about the response to the overturn of Roe. This episode, Kate and Jamia detangle how the notoriously tricky world of employer-sanctioned healthcare could offer aid to employees in states with restricti...
Doctors With Borders
July 21, 2022 09:00 - 28 minutes - 25.8 MBIn Texas, it's hard to get an abortion. But it's also hard to learn how to provide one. So hard that med students need to travel across state lines to get the training they need. What happens to a generation of doctors when their speciality becomes illegal?This week, Kate and Jamia meet Jasmine, a first-year medical resident who had to chart her own path to learn how to provide abortions. But will she be able to practice in her home state ofTexas when her residency ends? If you’re looking ...
Crossing the Line
July 13, 2022 09:00 - 29 minutes - 27.3 MBIn Louisiana, faith and politics are at a crucial intersection. It’s a state where being anti-choice is mainstream. And one legislator managed the impossible: He created a law so restrictive, even anti-abortion organizations turned against it. While politicians and providers are locked in a standoff, abortion care goes underground. In this episode, Kate and Jamia test the boundaries of anti-choice ideologies, and speak to someone providing the care and spiritual nourishment folks continue t...
An Island of Care
July 07, 2022 09:00 - 21 minutes - 19.8 MBYou probably have seen maps of the country that highlight trigger states, where abortion is banned or severely restricted post-Roe. In some spots on these maps, states without trigger laws stand out like islands in seas of red. Now, these states are the last ones standing for abortion access in their regions of the country. In this episode, Kate and Jamia take a closer look at what they thought was a surprising island in a vast expanse of the west: Montana. Our sponsor, ActBlue, has tool...
Hanging On to a Future
June 29, 2022 09:00 - 27 minutes - 25.3 MBWell, here we are. We're on the other side of what we've been talking about for years. Roe v. Wade has been struck down, and for the first time in our lifetime, abortion is no longer protected. In our first episode, Kate and Jamia talk to folks who've been living, and working, and surviving, in a state where abortion access has been under fire for years, even before Roe fell -- Kentucky. To learn more about the Kentucky Health Justice Network, click here. Our sponsor, ActBlue, has too...
Coming soon: Season 4 of Ordinary Equality
June 20, 2022 04:00 - 1 minute - 1.69 MBFor the first time in our lifetimes, everyone will be living in a world without Roe v. Wade. But a lot has changed since 1973. So we’re here again, with another crucial season talking all about abortion today. We’re thinking of it as a survival guide. How to live – and resist – in a post-Roe world. Our sponsor, ActBlue, has tools to help you support local reproductive justice groups or local abortion funds by either donating directly or creating your own fundraising form. These forms can be...
The End of Roe v. Wade
May 03, 2022 22:47 - 30 minutes - 28.1 MBGiven last night's Supreme Court leak, Ordinary Equality's EP Jenny Kaplan sat down with Kate and Jamia to talk about what comes next in a post-Roe v. Wade world.
BONUS: The Accidental Activist (Alyssa Milano)
April 15, 2022 10:00 - 43 minutes - 39.9 MBListen to The Accidental Activist wherever you get your podcasts. Alyssa Milano has been on our screens for decades. But she’s also been on the front lines championing the issues she believes in for just as long. Her roles on Who's the Boss?, Melrose Place, and Charmed are as iconic as her activism. While most of us choose one cause, Alyssa has dedicated herself to many. In this episode, Alyssa shares the origin story of her activism, how love propels us, and how to face the critics. Ment...
Ordinary Equality x Womanica: Pat Spearman
March 28, 2022 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.6 MBIn our final episode of the season, Kate talks with Senator Pat Spearman (1955-present) about her path towards becoming an Equal Rights Amendment icon.
Ordinary Equality x Womanica: Martha Wright Griffiths
March 21, 2022 09:00 - 15 minutes - 13.9 MBThis week on the Ordinary Equality x Womanica crossover season, we're talking about "the Mother of the Equal Rights Amendment." Listen in as Kate Kelly shares the story of Martha Wright Griffiths (1912-203) -- told, in part, in Martha's own words.
Ordinary Equality x Womanica: Crystal Eastman
March 14, 2022 09:00 - 17 minutes - 15.8 MBFor this episode of the Ordinary Equality x Womanica crossover season, we're going back to the heat of the suffrage movement to learn about one of the Equal Rights Amendment's creators and lifelong advocates. A lawyer, writer and activist, she was known by some as "the most dangerous woman in the world." Join host Kate Kelly and Dr. Amy Aronson, author of "Crystal Eastman: A Revolutionary Life," as they take us through the story of Crystal Eastman (1881-1928).
Ordinary Equality x Womanica: Molly Brant (Degonwadonti)
March 07, 2022 10:00 - 23 minutes - 22 MBFor our first episode of the Ordinary Equality x Womanica crossover season, we’re going way back—more than 100 years before the Equal Rights Amendment even existed—to learn about one of the most important figures of the Revolutionary War. She was an indigenous political leader whose absence from this country’s framing documents set the stage for the fight for the ERA more than a century later. Join host Kate Kelly and Dr. Kahente Horn-Miller, a Kanien:keha’ka teacher, researcher and perform...
Coming Soon: Ordinary Equality x Womanica
March 01, 2022 05:00 - 1 minute - 1.08 MBOn Ordinary Equality, we’ve talked about abortion rights crusaders and women’s rights activists – people putting everything on the line to make our society more just. We're so excited to continue that work on a brand new season, this time, in collaboration with Womanica, another podcast from Wonder Media Network. Host Kate Kelly has a new book out—also called Ordinary Equality— and we’ll be exploring the lives of four women from the book who had a hand in the fight for constitutional equal...
Bonus: What’s at Stake: Roe v. Wade
December 06, 2021 15:24 - 43 minutes - 39.4 MBOne of the most historic cases in the fight for reproductive justice was founded on the “penumbra” of cases that came before it--and it’s still one of the cornerstones of abortion law today. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter
Bonus: Introducing Gravity
June 10, 2021 10:00 - 3 minutes - 2.97 MBIntroducing WMN's newest original podcast, Gravity, a show about what becomes possible when we look at hardships differently, hosted by Dr. Lucy Kalanithi. Join us to explore transformations around loneliness, the myth of the ideal nuclear family, climate crisis, and more. Follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
Changing the Way We Talk About Abortion
April 07, 2021 10:00 - 50 minutes - 46.1 MBHow do we dismantle the anti-choice movement? We’re talking through what needs to change on our side, and how we can unify our message towards the anti-abortion crowd. Strap in, folks-- it’s the grand finale. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter
It’s a TRAP!
March 31, 2021 10:00 - 36 minutes - 33.2 MBIn 1973, Roe v. Wade protected abortion access, right? Enter: TRAP laws. Today, Jamia and Kate run back the history that led to the anti-choice movement’s systematic attack on abortion rights.
Reproductive Justice
March 24, 2021 10:00 - 42 minutes - 39.4 MBReproductive Justice. Not reproductive access, not reproductive rights. Today, hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson sort through the web of social issues and systemic oppression that have affected the abortion conversation. Here are some more Reproductive Justice resources: Moms Rising The Educated Birth BIPOC Experience Black Mamas Matter Alliance Evidence Based Birth Indigenous Experience Changing Woman Initiative TEWA Women United Trans Rights Moss the Doula Birthing from Within...
The Long Southern Strategy
March 17, 2021 10:00 - 40 minutes - 37.6 MBAbortion access hasn’t always been a moral issue-- so how did we get to the partisan divide we see today? Jamia and Kate lay out the strategies of Christian nationalism, racism, and sexism that united southern white voters in the anti-choice movement. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch hist...
Roe v. Wade
March 10, 2021 11:00 - 41 minutes - 37.7 MBOne of the most historic cases in the fight for reproductive justice was founded on the “penumbra” of cases that came before it--and it’s still one of the cornerstones of abortion law today. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on T...
Bonus: Sharing Abortion Stories
March 03, 2021 11:00 - 20 minutes - 18.5 MBThis week, we're taking a break to share some abortion stories from listeners and previous guests. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter
Call This Number, Ask for Jane
February 24, 2021 11:00 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MBHow did people access abortion pre-Roe? Kate and Jamia talk about some of the clandestine organizations that helped bridge the gap. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter The National Abortion Federation aims to unite, re...
Let’s Go to Church
February 17, 2021 11:00 - 43 minutes - 40.2 MB“While the arguments are typically framed in a way that pits religion against science, faith and abortion access have a complicated and diverse relationship.” We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter
Breeding a Nation
February 10, 2021 11:00 - 37 minutes - 34.8 MB“The legacy of the transatlantic slave trade, and the domestic slave breeding industry has never left us. It’s at the foundation of a system that continues to oppress and constrict female bodies. Particularly Black bodies.” We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Ke...
Spilling the Abortion Tea
February 03, 2021 11:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBBelieve it or not, abortion used to be just another part of life all around the world. The United States was no different, until a dastardly campaign spearheaded by male doctors and one obsessive postal inspector. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twi...
Now at Last We Can Begin
January 27, 2021 11:00 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MBThe debate about abortion is often considered a black and white issue -- but that actually isn't the case. Join co-hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson as they discuss their own histories related to reproductive rights and kick off season 2 of Ordinary Equality. We want to hear from you! If you have an abortion story you want to share, leave us a message at: (516) 636-3012. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we...
Introducing: Ordinary Equality Season 2
January 20, 2021 11:00 - 2 minutes - 2.51 MBIntroducing season 2 of Ordinary Equality. Opponents of the Equal Rights Amendment sometimes call it the "everything related to abortion amendment." So, this season, join co-hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson as they uncover just about everything related to abortion. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA and the latest abortion laws as we watch history in the making. Kate Kelly on Twitter Jamia Wilson on Twitter
Season 2 is in the works
October 27, 2020 11:00 - 23 minutes - 21.1 MBKate Kelly introduces her new co-host for season two, Jamia Wilson, and sets the scene for the topic of the season: Abortion. Follow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making.
Bonus: Introducing She Votes!
August 10, 2020 09:00 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MBSubscribe now to hear more episodes of She Votes!
Charlotte Clymer on Trans Rights and the ERA
April 28, 2020 10:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making.
Coming Soon: Ordinary Equality at Podapalooza!
April 21, 2020 20:03 - 2 minutes - 1.95 MBGet your ticket at https://www.podapalooza.org/!
Forward Together, Backward Never
April 07, 2020 10:00 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: With Virginia ...
Bipartisan Bonanza
March 31, 2020 10:00 - 31 minutes - 29 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: “Illinois Appr...
An Amendment Resurrected
March 24, 2020 10:00 - 34 minutes - 32 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: “Nevada Ratifie...
The A+ Amendment
March 17, 2020 10:00 - 26 minutes - 24.2 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: “Could 1972 Equ...
U.S. vs. the World
March 10, 2020 10:00 - 36 minutes - 33.2 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: “An Equal Right...
Not on a Pedestal, but in a Cage
March 03, 2020 11:00 - 38 minutes - 35 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: The Ginsburg Tap...
Update: The ERA Today
February 25, 2020 11:00 - 22 minutes - 21 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: 3 State Attorne...
Foot Soldiers of the Patriarchy
February 18, 2020 11:00 - 40 minutes - 36.7 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. Special thanks also to Mona Eltahawy for inspiring the name of this episode. To dive deeper i...
Victory! Well, Almost.
February 11, 2020 11:00 - 34 minutes - 31.8 MBFollow us on Twitter at @OrdEquality for everything you need to know about the ERA as we watch history in the making. Special thanks to Equality Now, an international human rights organization that works to protect and promote the rights of women and girls around the world. To learn more about what you can do to support the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, check out www.equalitynow.org/era. To dive deeper into some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out: “March 22, 1972...