In our Season 2 opener, we meet co-hosts and deep state experts Muriel Woland and Clifford Hanger. Muriel discusses how she came to write the Deep State anthem in exchange for a couple of the Shovelmen's first-born. And Ford remembers an event from his childhood in which Gisele Bündchen saved his parents' marriage. And his foreskin.

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Credits:

Liz Sanders played Muriel Wolland. Liz performs with Madeline, a Washington Improv Theater house ensemble.

Jamal Newman played Clifford Hanger. Jamal performs with Lena Dunham and NIXON. You can follow him on Instagram and Twitter at @hell0newman, and find him at jamalnewman.com.

Produced by Tim Townsend.

Theme music by Bart Warshaw.

Cover art by Claire Smalley

Website by Chance Griffin. 

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