On this week's podcast, we pay a visit to one of our favourite friends of the pod.

Wayne Swan is a Labor legend. the proud Queenslander served as the Member for Lilley between 1993-1996 and again from 1998-2019.

As Treasurer in the Rudd/Gillard governments, he steered Australia successfully through the Global Financial Crisis that decimated economies around the globe from 2008 until 2012 and beyond. Having retired from parliamentary politics, "Swanny" remains active as the National President of the Australian Labor Party. Wayne Swan is a proud advocate and champion for workers, Unions, and a fairer economy that shares its wealth more equally.

Francis paid him a visit at his Brisbane home to discuss the challenges and opportunities the Albanese Labor Government faces in making Australia a better place for all.


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