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For this episode, guest co-host Aubrey Gordon (co-host of Maintenance Phase) joins Sally to talk about ways we connect with friends when they’re going through a hard time. We discussed all different kinds of checking in, from “messages in a bottle” to sharing airline miles, to curating playlists, and a lot more. We also thought through some of the macro aspects of being there for friends, like how to tell if what you’re doing is more for you than it is for the person you’re trying to show up for.

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Things we talked about:

Greenfeast: Spring, Summer [A Cookbook] by Nigel SlaterWho Framed Roger Rabbit“Why Venmo is My Favorite Sympathy Card” by Rachel Miller for BuzzFeed

This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram  @OhILikeThatPod.

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