SPECIAL EPISODE - Interview w/ Elizabeth Catlin, CPM, Melissa Carman, CPM, and Hermine Hayes-Klein, J.D. 


In this special episode, I speak with two midwives about their recently being arrested and charged with the "unauthorized practice of a profession" in the state of New York. They have served the Amish and Mennonites communities for years, and these charges are just another piece in the government's and medical profession's efforts to control a woman's right to choice in pregnancy and childbirth. We are joined by an attorney who specializes in human rights in childbirth.



Show Notes



Wine pairing: 2017 Merlot from Chalkboard Wines

Theme music by Evan Handyside

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