Nutrition Experts Podcast Episode 47 Meditation is the Tiny Space Between Thoughts with Lola Scarborough

Lola is an IKYTA and Yoga Alliance E-RYT certified yoga teacher and a co-owner and Managing Director of Yoga Lola Studios.  Lola is also a certified life coach, a certified Wellness & Health Restoration Natural Foods Consultant, a certified tonic herbalist, a certified Ayurvedic Practitioner, a certified aerobics teacher, a certified Level III Reiki master, and a novice […]

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Lola is an IKYTA and Yoga Alliance E-RYT certified yoga teacher and a co-owner and Managing Director of Yoga Lola Studios.  Lola is also a certified life coach, a certified Wellness & Health Restoration Natural Foods Consultant, a certified tonic herbalist, a certified Ayurvedic Practitioner, a certified aerobics teacher, a certified Level III Reiki master, and a novice astrologer.  She teaches Kundalini Yoga classes (as taught by Yogi Bhajan) along with many other types of yoga.  She has a long history as a writer, teacher, and project manager in the business world.  She authors/has authored articles, and films videos related to yoga, health, and healing. She has produced over 25 videos on health and fitness through the online platform e-How.  Lola also develops and oversees the 200-Hour Yoga Mastery Course/Yoga Teacher Training Yoga at Yoga.

Mathea Ford: [00:00:27] Hi there! It’s Mathea. Welcome back to the Nutrition Experts Podcast. The podcast featuring nutrition experts who are leading the way using food starts today right now with our next guest. It’s great to have Lola Scarborough on the show today. Lola, welcome to Nutrition Experts.

Lola Scarborough: [00:00:44] Hi! Thank you Mathea. I’m really glad to be here with you and your listeners.

Mathea Ford: [00:00:49] I’m excited to have you on the show and share your expertise with my tribe. Can you start with telling my listeners a little more about you and what you do?

Lola Scarborough: [00:00:57] Sure. I’ve been practicing yoga for about 22 years – a long time. My particular love is Kundalini yoga. Although I do all different kinds. And I own a yoga/wellness studio in Lake City, Texas where my husband and I have been helping people get fit, stay fit and feel great for the last 11 years. I have a background in Ayurveda which is a medical system used largely in India. Maybe some of your listeners have heard of it maybe not but it’s really about lifestyle choices and choosing the right kinds of food and activities for your particular body constitution, teach a lot of meditation to people. I work with a lot of clients who have different issues ranging from fertility issues to going through cancer treatments and everything in between. I have a couple of different certifications in Chinese herbals and I also have a bachelor. I think it’s yeah it’s a B.A. A Bachelor of Arts in Political Science. So, that’s kind of a little bit about me.

Mathea Ford: [00:02:09] Wow! That’s a lot. I see how you’ve put together because I know yoga is all about the whole body and health. And then you’ve added that Ayurveda and the Chinese medicine. So, let’s talk about yoga for a minute. What do you think are the benefits that your customers have when they do yoga?

Lola Scarborough: [00:02:28] Well, the ones that get mentioned to me the most often is they get calmed down. The Yoga practice can be very strenuous or it can be very gentle. But what it does is it takes you out of your head and into your body giving that mind a chance to rest and giving the body a chance to move, to express itself. We spend so much of our time sitting in the car or at computers that we kind of lose contact with the tactile senses of our own body. So, it gives people a chance to re-remember the body as a sensation machine rather than as a tool that you push through the day that you make it do what it has to do to bring the groceries home and get the kids to school and all of the other tasks that we have.

Mathea Ford: [00:03:19] I always notice when I do yoga that is a wonderful stretching sensation even though I know it’s exercise, I know I’m building muscle but it also is just the idea that I’m holding poses for a long period time and stretching those muscles to have like you said I sit here in one spot and hunch over my computer or whatever. So, it’s a chance to get those opened up. How do you get those extra benefits of calming down and getting in to your body?

Lola Scarborough: [00:03:47] I do the particular type of yoga that I teach is that Kundalini yoga. I also teach in yoga. But my love, my passion what I’ve kind of dedicated my years of study and yoga to has been the Kundalini Yoga tradition as taught by yogi Bhajan and it is a yoga that incorporates all the different aspects of yoga. So, Ashtanga which is that exercise, Pranayama which is breathing techniques that work with the nervous system, that work with the constitution of the blood, that work with your ability to uptake oxygen and energy and meditation of course. Most of our meditations in the Kundalini tradition are active which means you’ll may be doing some chanting. You may be doing some breath work with it. You’re probably holding a mudra which are hand positions and there’s also a level of devotion and one of the things that I encourage my students to do is to go in connect with their heart center and listen for the small still voice of their soul. Our mind takes up so much of our living space that our poor little heart, soul thing never gets the chance to express itself. So, we do a lot of meditation and Kundalini yoga and then in some of the other types of yoga we practice at the studio, we do meditation as well but it’s probably a much smaller portion of the yoga practice itself. A lot of people when they come to yoga they’re not really looking for meditation or breath work. They’re just looking for a workout using yoga postures. So, we have all different kinds of students that come in with all different kinds of needs. You know yoga has turned into like a Baskin Robbins right? There are 50 flavors. A flavor for everybody you know so.

Mathea Ford: [00:05:41] So, when you’re looking at a yoga studio, how do you know what kind of yoga they practice? Do they usually tell you or does it matter that much?

Lola Scarborough: [00:05:51] Oh it matters it matters a whole lot. It’s everything. And so yes, usually they’ll tell you like a lot of the venue as it flows you know you’re going to work through yoga postures catching a breath in between each of the Asanas and there may be a slight amount of meditation to it but there may not be any meditation at all. Your meditation becomes your movement in your practice. So, it’s very physically based. Then you get into some of the more esoteric types of yoga like the Kundalini yoga where you’re actually doing a mantra practice I teach I mean Kundalini Yoga teachers do a lot of teaching as the part of leading a class. So, you actually begin to learn some about the philosophy, you begin to learn the different benefits to the different organs to the blood to the nervous system. How the particular things you’re doing affect the body. So, there’s a lot of teaching in that tradition and other studios you go in and you know you just hit it. You walk in and man you hit it and you’re just doing postures the whole time. And then you come out you feel like you’ve had a great workout and you have. But the essential components of yoga that make it yoga have a lot to do with meditation with breath work with a sense of devotion. Like I said which for us is going into our own hearts kind of devoting our practice to our higher selves. So, it really depends on the studio. But most studios are fairly transparent about what they’re offering.

Mathea Ford: [00:07:27] Well, I got to be honest with you I didn’t even know you know there was more than a couple types of yoga. And what I’ve heard is you know hot yoga or you know regular yoga. So, what’s what is hot yoga? Is that a different type of yoga completely or is it just the temperature of the room?

Lola Scarborough: [00:07:44] It’s the temperature of the room and different hot yogas used different types of practices. My husband who really loves Hatha, loves the physical component of yoga. Heads up our hot yoga division. Hot yoga if it’s done properly can be beneficial if it’s done in a room that’s too hot where they push you too hard is probably contraindicated for a lot of people because it’s hard on the adrenals. And people will go into heat exhaustion and they’ll feel great when they leave but that’s because they’re delirious. So, it’s really good to before you go into a hot yoga studio to understand what the temperature is, what the humidity is, what a safe heat index is. But it is basically a workout yoga and that’s its primary focus is to do a workout only the temperature is elevated.

Mathea Ford: [00:08:38] So, you’ve mentioned meditation multiple times. And I would just really like to hear more about kind of meditation outside of yoga. What are the benefits? What are some ways that people can do meditation that can be healthy for them?

Lola Scarborough: [00:08:55] A beautiful practice if you’re brand new to meditation, a beautiful practice is defined a safe and quiet space and always do it at the same time every day whenever possible. And you can light a candle and you can have a picture of Jesus or Buddha or one of your favorite teachers or just even someone you love. Keep it really simple, sit down and then take your right hand and wrap it around the wrist of the left arm and just close your eyes and count your pulse and just breathe in and breathe out and just focus all of your attention on your pulse. It is extremely calming and you can start with three minutes a day. Meditation doesn’t have to be done for an extended amount of time to bring extended benefits. Working your way up to a nine or 11 minute a day practice is absolutely optimum and no more than that is needed for you to get centered, to be calm down, to have the chance to listen to that small still voice that comes from the heart. What people find is that when they sit in meditation and they finally begin to get to a place where they can relax people will say “Well, Lola, you know I can’t meditate” and I’m like “well, you can.” And they say “But I keep having all these thoughts” and I’m like “everybody does that.” And meditation is that tiny tiny space in between thoughts. If you can just grab even those little tiny spaces. You’ll find that your intuition starts talking to you. You’ll find that you’re calmer, you’ll find that you handle stress so much better. It does not have to be complicated. You don’t have to listen to any type of a recording or anything else. You can just sit down wrap those fingers around that left wrist and just listen to the beat of your own pulse, connect with your heart, slow your breathing down and every time your thoughts wander just come back to the beating of the pulse. It’s that simple.

Mathea Ford: [00:11:07] And then from that like you said you get the calming you get the centered and you start to what else starts to happen?

Lola Scarborough: [00:11:16] While the nervous system begins to I call it refurbish itself. Most of us are pretty high strung because we live with so much stress and we stay so high strung we don’t even realize how high strung we actually are until we start calming down and then you’re like “Oh my God! I didn’t realize how stressed out I’d been. I didn’t realize I’m walking around holding my breath. I didn’t realize how fast I get irritable or sad or depressed” or whatever it is for you. And that’s another thing that people tell me when they come to the studio and they start doing yoga. They say “I didn’t realize really where I was at.” And so it begins to refurbish or rebuild the nervous system. Even if you’re sitting there and your thoughts veer off and you bring it back, your thoughts veer off you bring them back, your thoughts veer off you bring them back. That’s meditation and the nervous system actually has a chance to begin to rest and to renew itself.

Mathea Ford: [00:12:15] That’s amazing. I love that you said meditation is the tiny space between your thoughts that is probably very true. So, you mentioned you’ve been trained in Ayurveda. Can you talk about what that is and where it comes from?

Lola Scarborough: [00:12:33] Yes. Ayurveda is a system of health that comes from India. It’s estimated to be over five thousand years old. There are all kinds of medical treatises that kind of govern and outline the different treatments that Ayurveda uses for different diseases including diabetes, all kinds of cancer, epilepsy, you name it. All of these things that we know about in terms of disease in the West. Well, they’ve been going on in the bodies of human beings for a really long time. And so Ayurveda has its own methodology and its own approach and system for maintaining health which is the focus of Ayurveda. But then working with disease if disease happens. It’s a herbal system although now in India, Ayurvedic practitioners also go through western medical training as well as the more traditional Ayurvedic training. So, in Ayurveda, one of the things that stands out and it’s a lot like Chinese medicine in this way is that when you come in part of figuring out what is going on for you is the person, the doctor sits across from you and will often take detailed notes on what you eat, how you sleep, the state of your relationships with your family, family is considered to be very important in Ayurveda, what kind of job you do, the sorts of stress that you’re under. And then they look at the tongue. Same thing happens in traditional Chinese medicine, the tongue is the diagnostic tool. They take your pulse. Same thing in Chinese medicine the pulse is a diagnostic tool and they take all of these factors and they put them together so when they look at you they’re looking at you from the perspective of a whole person. A complete system and then the recommendations they make for you are based on these things. So, even though you may have diabetes, the types of herbals that the doctor the Ayurvedic practitioner would prescribe for you might be very different from the herbals that they would prescribe for someone else who had quote diabetes because they have different layers of treatments for diabetes based on different symptoms and different body types.

Mathea Ford: [00:15:09] So, can you talk a little more about the body types or whatever they’re called in Ayurveda?

Lola Scarborough: [00:15:16] They’re called doshas and what a dosha is is it’s a conglomeration of traits. So, I’m a Pitta, Kapha dosha and so my dosha is about 50/50 on each side. So, I’m a really go getter kind of person but I’m also pretty laid back. So, the doshas kind of describe your mental attributes and then those are called Gunas and then your physical attributes are called doshas. So, you can be someone who is one dosha in your body type and a different have a whole different mindset. Is that making sense?

Mathea Ford: [00:15:59] Yeah. It makes sense to me that it’s two different things. Mentally and physically your body.

Lola Scarborough: [00:16:07] So, when you’re working with someone in Ayurveda, someone’s dosha might be Kapha but then their Guna or they’re mental attributes might be Vata. There are three body types. There’s Vata, there’s Kapha and there’s Pitta. Most people will have two doshas that dominate the strongest. Some people are primarily one dosha and on rare occasions there’s someone who’s actually what’s called tri-doshic where the doshas are equally one third, one third, one third and so in Ayurveda, the doshas drive treatment. If you become unbalanced and the dosha it gives rise to disease and so the first level of management is to change lifestyle factors. So, let’s say for example I’m a very high strung nervous person. And then my movements are rapid. I talk a lot, I’m very quicksilver in my movements that would be considered someone who was Vata in nature and let’s say my mental attributes match my physical attributes. I had my nervous system would be the type of nervous system that would be more prone to things like Parkinson’s and those sorts of diseases because the dosha that you have is often indicator of the types of diseases that you’re going to develop in the event the dosha just go out of balance. So, I would go in, I’d see my practitioner and I’d say “oh! I have terrible insomnia which is a Vata condition. I can’t sleep at night. I’m nervous all the time. My husband says I drive him crazy because I never stop talking. Can you help me? I’m a wreck!” And so the Ayurvedic practitioner, doctor would do the interview, talk to you, take your pulse, look at your tongue and then would probably recommend you know “Okay, you need to do slow deep breathing.” The sorts of yogic exercises that you do should be very slow, very deliberate things that calm the nervous system down. These are the types of foods that you should eat. They’d be called Vata reducing foods so that you kind of calm the nervous system down, calm the nervousness of the personality down. So, the first line of defense in Ayurveda is changing lifestyle factors. Going to bed based on your dosha, eating the sorts of foods based on your dosha or bringing your dosha back into balance and then herbal prescriptions or herbal remedies are usually used only if lifestyle factors don’t bring what’s happening under control or if there is a disease that is already manifest. And of course I can’t do that. I’m not a doctor in the United States I’m just an Ayurvedic practitioner. I work with people on foods and sometimes I’ll recommend herbals and things like that but I never try to work with disease because I am not a doctor.

Mathea Ford: [00:19:14] How did the doshas and the foods kind of go together? I guess to eat the correct foods for your body type?

Lola Scarborough: [00:19:22] Different foods will increase the doshas so let’s go back to Vata. So I have my Vata clients and she’s sitting over there and she’s just so high strung and then she tells me only I only eat a little bit of food, I don’t like to eat because Vatas unlike me Pitta, they’re very a lot of times they just don’t like to eat. They eat very small amounts of food, they eat on the run and they tend to like foods that do what’s known as increasing they say in Ayurveda that a doshas likes to increase itself. When a doshas increases it goes out of control. So, she’s going to like all of the foods that increase her dosha. They’re going to be salty. They’re going to be dry. And what she needs to bring her dosha in the balance is exactly the opposite. She needs foods that are heavier, that are calming. She needs regular meal times. She needs to eat big enough portions that she can actually calm the nervous system down. She needs to avoid anything that’s cold, travel increases Vata and a lot of Vata people like nothing better than to travel. Going into cold climates increases Vata but people love to climb mountains. So, when you begin to get the big picture of how a dosha loves to increase itself and you see how people are living, you’ll see how they’re increasing the dosha which sends them further and further out of balance. You begin to bring foods and lifestyle factors in that bring that dosha back down into a state of balance so that she is a balance Vata. So, she’s bright, she’s light, she’s intelligent, she’s fun to be around but she sleeps at night. And she’s calm enough that she knows when to stop talking and she’s hungry enough that she actually stops to eat.

Mathea Ford: [00:21:16] Is there research now that has shown any… What are the benefits of that type of medicine?

Lola Scarborough: [00:21:21] The are Ayurvedic protocols have not really hit the western scene for clinical testing. There’s very there’s been very little clinical testing. However, in terms of herbals themselves, as you know there’s been a renewed interest in natural products for treating different kinds of health conditions. So, a lot of the herbals have been found to have efficacy for the different types of diseases and conditions as indicated in the eye you’re vetting Ayurvedic medical text. With Ayurveda, in terms of working with the doshas and eating towards the doshas, I would say that you know the proof is in the pudding. So, when I have worked with people. I’ve worked with people who have been infertile and they’ve been going through IVF treatment. I’ve changed what they’re eating and given them some good herbal protocols and they’ve gotten pregnant after years of trying to and you know you can see it. The sperm measures that moves faster and stronger, the eggs are stronger because you know when they do IVF they look at the health of the eggs. So, I feel pretty certain that when I use these protocols I am helping people because when people go in and they get their blood pressure measured it’s down. They sleep better they eat better they live better. But in terms of rigorous Western testing and clinical trials, Ayurveda has not in terms of lifestyle management it has not been subjected to that.

Mathea Ford: [00:22:59] Yes! I know what you’re saying about the herbs because I know even in Europe, a lot of medical practitioners use herbal supplements and compositions or whatever you would call them to help even in just regular hospitals. You have a book that’s a little bit that’s about breast cancer and preventing and improving your health with breast cancer. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Lola Scarborough: [00:23:24] Sure. The name of the book is Fighting For Our Tits and what I know. I’ve got some really interesting reactions to that title but what it’s about is it’s about not breast cancer or what it’s about is I’m a research rat and I’m very research based. So, the book is heavily researched based and it covers studies done on fluoride and how fluoride in our water can cause cancer. It talks about foods and diets and all. You know there’s there’s a lot of connection between diet and cancer in general and breast cancer in particular. Alcohol as well. I also have a section where I talk about all different kinds of things you can do just to boost your health and you know just keeping your immune system strong, keeping your emotions balanced, finding the happiness in your life, learning to relax, dancing. I have a whole section where I talk about a fellow by the name of Kohli who came over to the states. He was a doctor here and he got really interested in disease and he learned that it’s called Kohli’s toxins. He learned that by creating a cocktail and inserting it into a tumor that he could kill the cancer tumor and again it was called Kohli’s toxins. His vaccine cocktail was used for a long long time in cancer treatment and it would completely get rid of the tumor and it never came back. So there’s a lot of different ways to look at what we’re doing in terms of staying healthy enough and looking at some of the environmental toxins that we’re subjected to every day. I talk about perfume and synthetic perfume as a serious endocrine disrupter. It does all kinds of things to your endocrine system. I talk about antiperspirants and there has been no proof that antiperspirants or deodorants caused breast cancer but I kind of talk about letting go of some of the things that we use in our modern life that could possibly contribute to disease and finding more natural things to put in their place.

Mathea Ford: [00:25:47] So, you also mentioned that you are qualified in Chinese medicine. Can you talk about how that’s different from Ayurveda and what you do in that? You mentioned the tongue thing but…

Lola Scarborough: [00:25:59] Right. Well, I’ve studied Chinese medicine and really I’m a lot more versed in the Ayurveda than I am in the Chinese medicine but they have a lot of similarities. They both use tongue diagnosis, they use Pulse Diagnosis, they do the same thing with having a client sit down and they talk about different lifestyle factors and things like that. Like Ayurveda they believe the seasons have an impact on disease and the doshas. They believe in food as a treatment for different diseases. I think it may be one of the main differences that I have observed between Chinese medicine and Ayurveda is the use of acupuncture which is in Ayurveda, you will not find needles there. There’s acupuncture there are called Marma points where a practitioner can push on the points to help clear energy blockages but they don’t use the needles. I’ve done a lot of acupuncture personally on myself with a qualified acupuncturist and I have found it to be absolutely amazing in terms of helping with long term problems. I had eczema so bad that I thought it was going to eat me alive and this is when I first really got interested in Chinese medicine and it took me a year but after a year I’m eczema free for the last ten years and I had tried all kinds of Western medicines to help me with that problem without any success whatsoever. So, to me one of the biggest differences is the use of acupuncture and in Chinese medicine they use Qigong and other types Taichi, other types of energy movement rather than yoga as another way as another avenue to wholeness. But the focus and intent is a little different than the focus and intent of yoga.

Mathea Ford: [00:28:06] So with acupuncture, what do you think it is about acupuncture that helps? Because I’ve heard of what you’re trying out like the acupressure where there’s certain points in your body but what is the acupuncture actually doing?

Lola Scarborough: [00:28:19] What the acupuncture does is it goes to places in the system they’re called meridians in yoga they’re called Nadis but their energy we’d look like if you’ve ever seen a tree branch our nervous system looks kind of like a network of tree branches. So, energy, electromagnetic energy runs along those lines called meridians in Chinese medicine. The idea is just like if you have water flowing through a creek and a bunch of twigs and logs begin to block up the flow of the water then the water backs up and becomes stagnant. So, if you clear that away then the water flows again and so the use of acupuncture and also acupressure to a degree. The idea is to remove the blockage in that point of the energy system so that the energy can flow again and re-establish harmony in the body.

Mathea Ford: [00:29:20] So, they determine what’s blocked based on your symptoms?

Lola Scarborough: [00:29:23] Based on your symptoms and based on your pulse. They can tell a lot about you based on your pulse.

Mathea Ford: [00:29:30] So, are all acupuncturist trained in Chinese medicine or is it that Chinese medicine people are trained in acupuncture and there’s also regular people who just do acupuncture?

Lola Scarborough: [00:29:43] Yes, but yes people can do acupuncture without having any training whatsoever in Chinese herbals or through the traditional Chinese medicine called TCM. So there are practitioners. I went for a longtime to a chiropractor. Around here I just loved him to death and he’d been trained in acupuncture and so he would do acupuncture but he didn’t know anything about Chinese herbal or pulse diagnosis or even looking at the tongue. But I would tell him what was going on and he would break out his trusty needles then really good things would happen.

Mathea Ford: [00:30:19] And it’s not painful?

Lola Scarborough: [00:30:20] There can be times if it has an energy block where you’re going to notice a discomfort but a lot of times the first time I had acupuncture I had something like eleven needles and that’s when I first started my treatment for the eczema. And I thought almost like I was high. I just felt like it went woooshhh. I mean that’s the only way I can describe it. It was like woosh and I felt this instant sense of deep relief of… I mean I it’s hard to explain what it feels like but I knew something really awesome had just happened to me.

Mathea Ford: [00:30:59] Yeah! That would be my only thought is that hurt to have someone but they’re probably not really big needles they’re little bitty needles?

Lola Scarborough: [00:31:06] Yeah, they’re fine needles. And you know again unless it hits the point where there is a severe blockage you’re not even going to feel much of a little sting. And when they come out you almost never bleed but it’s just an incredible practice.

Mathea Ford: [00:31:23] So, we’ve talked about a lot today and I want to kind of distill it down and have you kind of talk about how this information that we’ve talked about can be used by the listeners in their day to day life.

Lola Scarborough: [00:31:38] One of the quickest ways to begin to use Ayurveda itself and the system of Ayurveda is to go online and start reading. There is a wonderful website Banyan Botanicals and that’s B A N Y A N and B O T A N I C A L S.com. Banyan Botanicals. They have the Dosha test. They go through and they have a little book about Ayurveda that you can download for free. They also have people that you can talk to and consult with if you have a question about using herbals for some of the conditions that you have. Deepak Chopra a lot of people have heard of him. He also on his website has a lot of different information about Ayurveda. So just getting out there and getting to poke around in it a little bit, figuring out kind of what your Dosha is is a great place to start. And Ayurveda is like yoga. I’ve studied Ayurveda now for going on eleven years and what I know wouldn’t even fill a thimble in the larger context of what’s out there to learn about it. The same is true of yoga and I’ve been doing it for 22 years. So there is a lot of information but you don’t have to have all of that to learn how to bring it into your life and use it to benefit yourself. You can stay at a very high level with it and still see incredible results.

Mathea Ford: [00:33:11] What are some of the biggest changes that you commonly give people to make about their diet stop drinking ice water or anything with ice. Ice or anything cold, ice cream, cold drinks harm the digestion so when in Ayurveda there’s a belief just like in Chinese medicine that there’s heat in the stomach it’s called Agni in Ayurveda so there’s a fire that burns. So, let’s say you’re eating your yummy yummy lunch and you’re chasing it down with a cold Coke or a cold glass of water well so you eat and the food goes in that fire in your stomach which burns the food to turn it into nutrition it’s nice and high and then you take a couple of drinks off your big gulp and you completely put the fire out. So, it makes it very hard for the body to take that food that you’ve just eaten and transform it into nutrients that then go into the bloodstream to build tissue, to build blood, to build your brain power. You put your fire out so in Ayurveda and in Chinese medicine they recommend consuming soup or like my husband and I we drink hot water with our meals and every now and again having something a little cold is is okay but ice cream anything that’s really cold harms the stomach, it harms the fire and harms your ability to digest your food and have it assimilate in the system. So, people say “but I can’t. I can’t give up my ice. I can’t give up my cold water.” So, you can take it one step at a time you know that’s a really good way to make changes but that’s one of the first things that I recommend. The second thing I recommend is to always eat your largest meal at lunch because our bodies are like the rest of nature. So, in the morning it’s kind of cool our Agni or stomach fires kind of low we’re just waking up our sun is just coming up in our stomach. So, eating something warm but light and then at noon our fire is like this blazing just like you know the noon sun and then in the evening the sun is going down so we’re cooling down again. So, the second piece of advice I give people right off the bat is to eat your largest meal at anywhere between eleven thirty and two o’clock in the afternoon.

Mathea Ford: [00:35:39] Okay, so I like to ask all my guests. We always talk about food. What’s your favorite food?

Lola Scarborough: [00:35:46] My favorite food is spinach. I love spinach. Anyway you any way you slice it, dice it, cook it raw in everything, cooked soups. I just love spinach.

Mathea Ford: [00:36:00] I can’t say that I agree but. I love that you’re passionate about it. I do. Yeah. No, I like to eat spinach. I do like to mix it with the lettuce and then sometimes like in a dish on the stove like if I’m making some chicken and I’ll put some spinach in there and wilted and add it to the sauce. That’s always good. Well, Lola, thank you for so much for being on the podcast today. It was a pleasure to have you on the show. I know my listeners learned a lot about different types of medicine, Ayurveda, the Chinese medicine and yoga. So, if listeners want to connect with you what’s the best way to do that?

Lola Scarborough: [00:36:41] They can check me out on my website at yogaLola.com Y O G.A. L O L.A. yogaLola.com. Or they can email me at [email protected] and if they’re interested in my book they can check out my website LolaScarborough.com. I know you transcribe, would you like for me to spell it out or do you intend drill it out. Okay, so as L O L.A. S C A R B O R O U G H. Dot com.

Mathea Ford: [00:37:16] Great. So guys this has been another great episode of the Nutrition Experts Podcast. The podcast that is all about learning more so you can do more with nutrition in your life.

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