In this special episode of West of Centre, the Birmingham and West Midlands Fabians Podcast, our chair Luke John Davies interviews newly-elected member of Labour's NEC Gurinder Singh Josan about his experiences on that body, Keir Starmer's performance as leader so far and what the Labour Party needs to do over the next few years.

Unlike the Not Enough Champagne podcast, this episode was not recorded in a soundproof bunker. Sadly there are some issues with sound quality but hopefully you can still listen and enjoy to this very interesting interview.

Luke John Davies tweets at @LJDLabour

Gurinder Singh Josan tweets at @gsjosan.

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