Our lovely car ride takes an unexpected turn as Joel and Ellie head into Pittsburgh. This week, Alan Wen joins us as we talk Joel's gradual trust in Ellie and how it contrasts with our new friends: brothers Sam and Henry.

We also make a stop in an abandoned sewer, navigate a no man's land covered by a mouthy sniper, and talk about what it means to have a childhood when you're in the post-apocalypse.

Enjoy the show!

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