Co-founder of Mule Design, Erika Hall, joins Christopher to talk about her new book, Conversational Design, and also about how Mule Design works with teams to communicate and design better and more collaboratively.

Co-founder of Mule Design, Erika Hall, joins Christopher to talk about her new book, Conversational Design, and also about how Mule Design works with teams to communicate and design better and more collaboratively.





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Time Jumps

1:20 What is conversational design?
4:20 Conversations with robocalls
9:50 People still love websites.
13:10 Google and people are error tolerant unlike voice assistants.
16:00 A book about as much about content strategy as conversational design
18:00 How do you convince your boss to use this?
24:45 Delightful / delight as a design term is a controversial term these days.
31:20 How do you work with teams who create or discuss design systems into their products or services?
35:00 Research is often used for confirmation biases
39:30 People can sit next to each other and never collaborate
43:30 People often have a tacit agreement to not point out when higher ups doing something wrong
48:00 If it helps to have Mule Design come in and say the things people would get fired for saying, that’s a service we provide.
51:30 What are some signs that your company or culture is successfully clicking?
54:20 How can people find Erika Hall online?

Links:

Christopher Schmitt
Christopher Schmitt on Twitter
Erika Hall on Twitter
📕 Conversational Design from A Book Apart
Mule Design
What Google Learned from its Quest to Build the Perfect Team

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