It's a cracker episode with panellists and health policy experts Gabrielle Baker and Tim Tenbensel joining me, Barbara Fountain, to catch up on the latest in health reforms. The panel convened in the middle of a week that started with the Parliamentary debate on the disestablishment of Te Aka Whai Ora. You’ll hear about:  The impact of the closure of Te Aka Whai Ora on Māori patients and providers and the wider reforms; The resulting brake on the rollout of localities, the increased role for iwi Māori partnership boards and where all this leaves the Hauora Māori Advisory Committee; Tim rails against the use of urgency in Parliament (elective dictatorship) and the misnomer that is the health postcode lottery; The new health status report gets a plug, even if just as a useful resource tool; Gabrielle updates us on progress on the second stage of the Wai2575 claim concerning tāngata whaikaha Māori, Māori with lived experience of disability.  All this and more