Never Contemplated
33 episodes - English - Latest episode: 9 days ago - ★★★★★ - 11 ratingsThe Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai.
Disclaimer: The views expressed by the participants of this program are their own and do not represent the views of, nor are they endorsed by The Florida Bar, their respective officers, directors, employees, agents, or representatives. None of the content should be considered legal advice. As always, consult a lawyer.
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Episodes
Committee Work -Collaborating to Create a Better World for Colleagues and Florida Families
April 16, 2024 21:00 - 46 minutes - 43 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, host Judge Hetal Desai talks with two distinguished members of The Florida Bar’s Family Law Section, Sarah Kay, and Shannon Novey. Tune in as they share their expertise and shed light on the intricacies of this multifaceted legal field. CLE Number: 8460
Immerse Yourself and Just Get Involved - Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters
January 23, 2024 13:20 - 49 minutes - 45.6 MBMeet Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters, leaders of the Florida Bar’s Elder Law and Real Property Probate and Trust Law (RPPTL) Sections. Learn about the differences and similarities between these practice areas, and the professional and practical benefits to joining a Bar Section. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.0 hour of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #8306. Links: The Florida Bar RPPTL...
Surround Yourself with Amazing People - Rebecca Bandy
November 30, 2023 19:30 - 46 minutes - 42.4 MBThis episode is a true holiday gift. Enjoy this interactive recording with Judge Hetal Desai and Rebecca Bandy, Director of the Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism at The Florida Bar, where they discuss her story and legal professionalism live from the National Association of Administrative Law Judiciary Conference in Tampa, Florida. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Professional...
It’s a much more gratifying way of life when you are serving others - Justice Meredith Sasso
October 18, 2023 06:00 - 40 minutes - 37.4 MBMeet Justice Meredith Sasso, the newest member of the Florida Supreme Court. Listen to her conversation with Judge Hetal Desai about growing up in the capital city, what being on a sports team taught her, Guardian Ad Litem (https://guardianadlitem.org/), the creation and workings of the 6th DCA, and the importance of the Bar’s rules committees. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.0 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professi...
The Ability to Read the Room is as Important as the Ability to Read the Law - Alexis Fowler
August 18, 2023 06:00 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MBEnjoy this interactive session with Judge Desai and Alexis Fowler, Government Relations Director at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, where they discuss her survival story and the importance of giving back. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.5 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7916.
The Ability to Read the Room is as Important as the Ability to Read the Law
August 18, 2023 06:00 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MBEnjoy this interactive session with Judge Desai and Alexis Fowler, Government Relations Director at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, where they discuss her survival story and the importance of giving back. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1.5 hour of General CLE credit, and 1.0 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7916.
Recognize Your Own Talents - Melanie S. Griffin
April 26, 2023 06:00 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MBEnjoy this speed session with Judge Desai and Secretary of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation (DBPR), where they discuss mentorship, the FSU J.D./M.B.A. program, evaluating life-work balance in the long term, getting over imposter syndrome, the workings of DBPR, and the Secretary’s personal story of motherhood. http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/ Twitter: @melaniesgriffin @floridadbpr This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Dep...
Pro Bono work helps students develop as lawyers and not just people who know the law - Dean Theresa Radwan
March 30, 2023 06:00 - 30 minutes - 27.5 MBJudge Desai asks the Interim Dean of Stetson Law School Theresa Radwan questions about the Law School’s history and its current program. Listen to Dean Radwan explain the importance of law students and lawyers reaching out to community, how Stetson Law makes sure students are “practice ready” lawyers, and Stetson Law’s own unofficial rock band. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of General CLE credit, and 0.5 hours of Profes...
Education Can Change Everything - Dean Deidré A. Keller
March 23, 2023 06:00 - 58 minutes - 53.4 MBIn the third installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Deidré A. Keller, the Dean of Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University (FAMU), College of Law. Learn about the historic significance of FAMU Law and the Parramore neighborhood in Orlando. Dean Keller also talks about growing up in Guyana, going from the Bronx to Yale, law and literature, and the importance of providing access to a solid practical legal education to...
Be Curious, Be Bold, and Take the Leap - Dean Laura A. Rosenbury
March 09, 2023 07:00 - 51 minutes - 46.9 MBIn the second installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Laura A. Rosenbury of the University of Florida, Levin College of Law. Dean Rosenbury talks about her journey from rural America to Harvard to the flagship law school in Florida. Learn about how UF Law has climbed to and remained in the top 25 law schools in the nation (and # 1 in Florida) by not only upping its game academically, but also by increasing the diversi...
The Making of a Good Lawyer- Dean Erin O'Hara O'Connor
March 01, 2023 07:00 - 47 minutes - 43.3 MBIn the first installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Erin O’Hara O’Conner, who discusses her role as the Dean of FSU College of Law and how she got there. This episode explores the changes in law students and teaching methods over the years, and how to prevent burnout in the legal profession. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE c...
Be Authentic to Who You Are and Let Service Guide You - Judge Navarro
November 28, 2022 19:00 - 47 minutes - 43.3 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Navarro, who discusses her unique background, learning about drug court and the ways to mentor others about wellness. REFERENCED RESOURCES: https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnesscenter/ https://www.fla-lap.org/ Judge Navarro on social media: Facebook Instagram This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6822.
Special Release - Part 1: Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes
September 21, 2022 20:00 - 56 minutes - 51.8 MBThe Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course...
Special Release - Part 2: Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock
September 21, 2022 20:00 - 1 hour - 71 MBThe Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalis...
Be in Court, Prepared and On Time; Be Civil; and Be Straightforward - Chief Judge Munyon
March 11, 2022 06:00 - 33 minutes - 30.4 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes the 9th Circuit Chief Judge Lisa Munyon who discusses her background and path to the bench. REFERENCED RESOURCES: https://www.law360.com/appellate/articles/1462291/fla-justices-mull-making-zoom-hearings-permanent https://issuu.com/orangecobarassociationorlando/docs/the_briefs_february_2022/14 https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-news/rules-package-to-codify-remote-proceedings-argued/ This podcast has been approved by Th...
Public Service is Always Challenging, Never Boring - Secretary Simone Marstiller
February 07, 2022 14:00 - 42 minutes - 39 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes former judge and current Secretary of the Agency for Healthcare Administration, Simone Marstiller who discusses her diverse background and strong roots in public service. If you’d like to follow Secretary Marstiller on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SMarstiller This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5783.
You're Not an Island - Judge Meg Kerr
January 07, 2022 05:00 - 34 minutes - 31.4 MBIn this episode, Judge Meg Kerr discusses her unique background and path to the Office of Judges of Compensation Claims, where she is assigned to Worker's Compensation cases. She emphasizes the importance of building relationships and making connections with colleagues and staff in order to be stronger professionally and to balance mental and emotional health and combat stress. References: The Florida Bar Mental Health and Wellness Center: https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnes...
Reputation is Everything - Judge Sheri Chappell
December 03, 2021 06:00 - 33 minutes - 30.4 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Sheri Chappell who discusses the importance of mentoring and always striving to be above the adversarial process. https://www.floridabar.org/prof/pmentor/ https://home.innsofcourt.org/mentoring https://home.innsofcourt.org/AIC_PDFs/Mentoring/30245_Activity_Model_Mentoring_Program.pdf This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #...
Reputation is Everything
December 03, 2021 06:00 - 33 minutes - 23 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Sheri Chappell who discusses the importance of mentoring and always striving to be above the adversarial process. https://www.floridabar.org/prof/pmentor/ https://home.innsofcourt.org/mentoring https://home.innsofcourt.org/AIC_PDFs/Mentoring/30245_Activity_Model_Mentoring_Program.pdf This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #...
Always Be Willing to Serve
November 01, 2021 04:00 - 37 minutes - 26.1 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Justice Jamie Grosshans who is currently Florida's only sitting female Supreme Court Justice to discuss her path to the bench. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5632.
Always Be Willing to Serve - Justice Jamie Grosshans
November 01, 2021 04:00 - 37 minutes - 34.6 MBIn this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Justice Jamie Grosshans who is currently Florida's only sitting female Supreme Court Justice to discuss her path to the bench. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5632.
Ambassadors for Civility
September 27, 2021 04:00 - 47 minutes - 32.7 MBJoin us as we open Season Two with two amazing sisters on the bench. Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, explores the careers of Southern District judges, Beth Bloom and Robin Rosenberg who share their paths to the bench which led to their collaboration and development of the nationally recognized “Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions” program. This podcast has been approved for 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5588. References: Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions Dis...
Ambassadors for Civility - Judge Beth Bloom and Judge Robin Rosenberg
September 27, 2021 04:00 - 47 minutes - 43.4 MBJoin us as we open Season Two with two amazing sisters on the bench. Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, explores the careers of Southern District judges, Beth Bloom and Robin Rosenberg who share their paths to the bench which led to their collaboration and development of the nationally recognized “Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions” program. This podcast has been approved for 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5588. References: Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions Dis...
Lawyers Never Lose Their Appeal - Judges Miesha Darrough, Gisela Then Laurent, Daliah Weiss, Patricia Barksdale and Carolyn Bell
June 02, 2021 12:00 - 1 hour - 80.2 MBJoin us as we wrap up Season One with the ultimate legal professionalism #girlsquad! Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, delves deep into the careers of female judges who serve in The Florida Bar's Standing Committee on Professionalism (SCOP). Be inspired and motivation by the paths of Judges Miesha Darrough, Gisela Then Laurent, Daliah Weiss, Patricia Barksdale and Carolyn Bell. This podcast has been approved for 1.5 hours of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 1...
Lawyers Never Lose Their Appeal
June 02, 2021 12:00 - 1 hour - 60.3 MBJoin us as we wrap up Season One with the ultimate legal professionalism #girlsquad! Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, delves deep into the careers of female judges who serve in The Florida Bar's Standing Committee on Professionalism (SCOP). Be inspired and motivation by the paths of Judges Miesha Darrough, Gisela Then Laurent, Daliah Weiss, Patricia Barksdale and Carolyn Bell. This podcast has been approved for 1.5 hours of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 1...
You Have to Understand What You Are Fighting For - Judge Marcia Morales Howard
March 17, 2021 04:00 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MBJudge Howard shares her journey to the bench as well as her passion for performing Naturalization Ceremonies and promoting Civics education. This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #6578. References: Judge Marcia Morales Howard Honored with Hoeveler Judicial Professionalism Award, Judge Marcia Morales Howard honored by The Florida Bar, The United States Welcomed 50 New Citizens i...
You Cannot Be Afraid of Doing Things for the First Time - Judge Patricia Seitz
February 05, 2021 05:00 - 50 minutes - 46.4 MBThe Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism welcomes Judge Patricia Seitz, the first female Florida Bar President to discuss how to shatter glass ceilings. This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4501. References: Judge Seitz interview for the Center’s Historical Video Series; Pro Bono Matters website; Judge Patricia Seitz to Receive Distinguished Federal Judicial Service Pro Bo...
Judge Jessica Costello--Mentors, Friendtors, and Advocates
December 16, 2020 05:00 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MBJudge Costello shares her journey to the bench and the importance of mentoring and giving back. Judge Costello's Twitter: https://twitter.com/JessGCostello Judge Desai's Twitter: https://twitter.com/JudgeDesai Florida Children and Youth Cabinet: https://www.flgov.com/cyc-members/ This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5981. References: Florida Children and Youth Cabinet Members...
Encouragement and Support Makes a Difference--Judge Nina Ashenafi Richardson
November 18, 2020 05:00 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MBJudge Ashenafi Richardson shares her trailblazing story of being a first generation immigrant attorney and her path to the bench. This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5980. References: Minorities in the Legal Profession, Florida Bar issue paper; Helping First-Generation Lawyers Thrive, Law Practice Today article; How She Did It: Judge Nina Ashenafi Richardson’s Path to Leaders...
Disagree Without Being Disagreeable - Judge Andrea Wolfson
October 14, 2020 12:00 - 29 minutes - 26.7 MBJudge Andrea Wolfson discusses the importance of civility, congeniality and community in the legal profession. REFERENCES: Friendship between Justices Scalia and Ginsberg: What we can learn from Ginsburg’s friendship with my father, Antonin Scalia - The Washington Post Ginsburg And Scalia: 'Best Buddies' - NPR Article about a Prison’s Book Club similar to the one referenced by Judge Wolfson: Success Inside and Out: A Program for Women in Prison - NAWJ This podcast has been approved f...
Make No Apologies—Judge Rachel Nordby
September 16, 2020 04:00 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MBThe Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism welcomes Judge Rachel Nordby to share her experience and advice on balancing family and the bench. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5978. References: Justice, Interrupted, Bradwell v People of State of Illinois
Make No Apologies—Judge Rachel Nordby
September 16, 2020 04:00 - 34 minutes - 23.6 MBThe Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism welcomes Judge Rachel Nordby to share her experience and advice on balancing family and the bench. This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5978. References: Justice, Interrupted, Bradwell v People of State of Illinois
This... is Never Contemplated
September 04, 2020 15:00 - 3 minutes - 2.78 MBFrom The Florida Bar's Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism comes a new podcast about gender bias in the judiciary and the practice of law.