Today TMO speaks with Martijn Wilder Founder and CEO of Pollination, which is a specialist climate change investment and advisory firm, accelerating the transition to a net zero, nature positive future. Martijn is recognized as a global leader in climate law and investment and has advised governments and companies on innovative climate finance investments. Pollination along with HSBC and Climate Asset Management just raised $650M for #naturalcapital. The funds will invest in agriculture, forestry and environmental assets, while a nature-based carbon strategy will seek to create a pipeline of high-quality carbon credits for companies trying to reach net-zero emissions. This episode is part of the RWA x ReFi Report which is made possible by the Climate Collective (https://climatecollective.org) and brought to you by .basin (https://basin.global) In this episode: 00:00 Real World Assets for Regenerative Finance 01:36 climate justice, natural capital 01:51 recognized global leader in climate law #climatefinance #naturalcapital #biodiversityfinance 03:03 real estate and natural capital 
03:06 climate sprint - ecosystem services & co-benefits and carbon removal which resulted in the core benefits label 03:24 pollination name 05:12 investment platforms in nature space; we don't have any other choice at this point but to invest in nature, protect nature, conserve nature, restore nature
05:48 trillions of dollars into nature. 06:15 nature valuation 06:39 TNFD 06:57 biodiversity 07:27 carbon markets 07:36 nature and natural capital 08:15 nature-based activities (NbS; NCS); greenhouse gases GHG's 08:24 compliance markets v voluntary markets 08:54 payments for ecosystem services (PES) 9:18 additionality & permanence 11:03 trillions of dollars needed to restore nature 11:30 deforestation; biodiversity loss 12:03 the global south; least developed countries 
 12:45 fund the nature crisis; regenerative finance ReFi 13:09 Paulson Report; Financing for Nature 13:24 mass extinction crisis 
 13:30 Dasgupta Review: Economics of Biodiversity 13:39 we need trillions of dollars to invest in nature 14:18 the economics are just wrong 
14:27 legal mechanisms to drive investment into nature 14:33 put real value on nature; natural capital accounting 15:21 nature is not just a public good, it's a key part of the supply chain 15:27 Task Force for Nature Related Financial Disclosures (TNFD) and Task Force for Climate related Financial Disclosure (TCFD) 15:57 natural capital accounts 
 16:30 nature value; nature risk 16:57 natural capital reports; sustainability reports
17:30 Great Barrier Reef. 18:03 immediate costs v. Long term solutions 18:18 nitrogen and phosphate 
 18:28 natural capital markets, ecosystem markets 18:33 upstream or downstream 18:57 circular economy 19:06 landscape approach, 19:21 ecosystem approach; connectivity 20:00 agriculture, beef, ag tourism, mangroves, 20:24 One Earth bioregions 2020, bioregionalism, local currencies, natural capital backed currencies 21:21 water is a huge part of the carbon cycle, carbon tunnel vision 21:30 holistic lens, biodiversity, water quality, water quantity, habitat 21:39 nature incubator; emission reductions 22:51 nature-based carbon projects; Nature Based Solutions NbS; Natural Climate Solutions NCS 23:54 nature investment; nature value; nature credit; metric to measure biodiversity; watershed protection, species 
 24:24 nature baseline 24:30 nature offsets 26:57 invest in nature and restoration projects 27:06 nature itself is a public good 28:12 ReFi community or the regenerative finance community; crypto and blockchain 30:21 how do you measure that ton of nature? 30:39 gamification to fund on the ground protection 31:00 Metaverse to fund nature 
 31:30 MRV; ground truth 31:39 blockchain, legitimacy, trust, transparency 31:42 scope one, two, and three 32:09 IETA - International Emissions Trading 32:12 blockchain tokenization of carbon 33:36 land is real estate and carbon is real estate and ecosystems is real estate 34:00 real estate developments 34:06 buildings and embodied carbon; operational carbon 35:09 integrated development with biodiversity and nature 36:06 built environment carbon 
 36:33 cost of urban heat and urban heat islands 37:03 bushfires, wildfires, risk; climate resilience, climate adaptation 38:06 Navigating a Nature Positive Future 38:48 nature positive; nature risk; the critical importance of indigenous communities to nature
39:00 indigenous groups are the custodians of nature 39:27 nature positive; climate positive 41:45 natural capital 42:06 nature-loss problem: nature crisis 42:15 World Economic Forum (WEF): New Nature Economy 43:33 Collaboration & Cooperation are key https://pollinationgroup.com https://beta.basin.global/ .basin is perpetual place-based climate and nature finance. .basin scales land, ecosystem, and carbon sink restoration and conservation to solve the climate, nature, and carbon crises.