Host Jon Olson's guests are noted authors JJ Harrigan, David Bruns, and David McCloskey. They discuss the intersection of national security thriller novels and actual national security challenges and opportunities. JJ Harrigan is former state department Foreign Service Officer and was a political science professor, David Bruns served in submarines and is co-author with Jon Olson for their national security thrillers, and David McCloskey is a former CIA intelligence analyst and also served as a consultant.