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Murder Phone

110 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 month ago - ★★★★★ - 84 ratings

In Season One Tony will cover his life with a brain injury and how it eventually led him to corresponding with some of the world's most notorious serial killers. The first season will describe Tony's 6 year relationship with David Gore. Through Gore’s letters you will get to know this monster’s most intimate thoughts. How he hunted, what were his trophies, personal detailed descriptions of killings, his Death Row relationship with Ted Bundy and how he literally talked his way into the execution chamber. You will hear interviews with women who survived to tell of their horrifying experience with David Gore and Fred Waterfield The Killing Cousins. Tony will cover a story that not many know and no one ever talks about. We guarantee that this season will get you as close to a Serial Killer as you ever want to be.

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Episodes

Season 5 Episode 12 “The Wrap Up”

February 19, 2024 12:00 - 1 hour - 71.4 MB

Tony, his brother Joey and his Dad help him wrap up the entire season. Given all the information that Metheny has shared it is quite a task.  This Episode is a must watch on You Tube. Tony shares some new videos of Joe Metheny’s neighbor, and where Joe lived before he was arrested.  In order to help tell Metheny’s story and prove he was telling the truth Tony also shares all the seasons videos in an order that will help clarify everything. Metheny talks about his truck driving days and ho...

Episode 11 “Visit With a Monster” Part 2

January 29, 2024 12:00 - 1 hour - 45.4 MB

Tony takes you back to July 2010 when he visits Joe Roy Metheny in prison. Tony and Al share videos of their trip that have never been seen before and they will make you feel like you were  there with them.  You will go under the bridge with us where he murdered 5 people and tasted human meat for the first time You will see The Border Line Bar and Grill where he hung out and hired prostitutes You will see The McDonalds where he picked up his last victim You will visit Joe Stein’s Pallet...

Episode 10 “Visit With a Monster”

January 15, 2024 12:00 - 1 hour - 56.9 MB

Tony takes you back to July 2010 on one of his investigative trips to meet with the Monster Joe Roy Metheny Tony and Al actually visit Joe Metheny in prison. They are the only visitors this monster ever had other than detectives During the two days of visits Tony recounts the many stories that Metheny shared with them. He spoke openly of killings he was never charged with, his fascination with having sex with corpses, prison life and how he loved being a truck driver.  At one point Tony a...

Season 5 Special Edition "Madness"

December 11, 2023 12:00 - 23 minutes - 15.9 MB

Tony and Al announce  when Season 5 Episode 10 will resume. Tony shares scenes from his screenplay “Madness”. It’s a fictional story based on the many serial killers that Tony has corresponded with over the last 15 years. 

Season #5 A Special Message From Your Host Tony Ciaglia

December 04, 2023 12:00 - 14 minutes - 9.9 MB

Tony and Al are going to take a short holiday break. Tony describes a little bit about the final 3 episodes of Season 5  Tony talks about depression and how it's tough during the holiday season. Tony shares one of his writings titled "Pull The Plug", which covers a low point in his life with a Traumatic Brain Injury. 

Season 5 Episode 9 “Child Killer”

November 27, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 41.3 MB

Joe Metheny admits to brutally murdering 6 year old Robin and her mother Kelly. The blood chilling details are not for the faint hearted.  Just when you think Metheny is done talking about his First Kill he comes with more details about what he did on the anniversary of her murder. Once again Joe aka Tiny toys with the idea of giving Tony the locations of his many victims.  He continues to ask for money for this information, and when he realizes Tony will not pay he becomes angry and the ...

Season 5 Episode 8 “I Did The Bitches I Killed A Favor”

November 20, 2023 12:00 - 57 minutes - 39.8 MB

Joe Metheny talks about how he did the many girls that he killed a favor.  His favorite line was "They were just drug addicted bitches with one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave." Tony asks Metheny a question that he asks all of the serial killers he’s writing:  This is very short but important to me in gaining knowledge about you. When your life is over tell me what it is that you want to be remembered as?  Metheny’s answer is priceless!  Metheny the conman continues to w...

Season 5 Episode 7 “Rest In Peace, Catherine”

November 13, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 43.5 MB

In todays episode Tony and Al are going to cover the question they have been receiving from our Murderphoniacs. Is Joe Metheny is a true sociopath? Tony actually asks Metheny on a rare phone call if he thinks he’s a sociopath, and receives an answer you have to hear. Tony shares a heartwarming story that he wrote to a friend who lost her sister. He wanted to see how Metheny would respond.  In disgusting detail Joe Metheny describes the obscene murder of Catherine Magaziner and how she en...

Season 5 Episode 6 “Roadtrip”

November 06, 2023 12:00 - 48 minutes - 33.5 MB

Joe Metheny discusses with Tony what life is like in prison, describes in detail who his “Prison Brothers” were.  Metheny’s letters are so detailed and are always fascinating, putting the listener right in the middle of the story. Tiny describes how he thought he saw a ghost when describing one of the female guards.  She reminded him of the 12 year old girl that was his first kill back in 1970. He lost control and his actions once again ended up with him being put in the dreaded hole.   F...

Episode 5 “The T- Shirt and The Tooth”

October 30, 2023 11:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MB

Metheny sends Tony an unexpected present. He also describes more about his first kill experiences. Joe Metheny sends Tony a tooth that he pulled out of his mouth. This tooth actually consumed human flesh. Metheny also provides Tony with a T Shirt that is a 9 Large which give you an idea of the size of this monster.  I On the T-Shirt Tiny depicts in cartoon form what he used to do to his victims as he prepared them to serve at his BBQ stand.  Al and Tony show and describe both the Tooth a...

Season 5 Episode 4 “First Kill”

October 23, 2023 11:00 - 57 minutes - 39.5 MB

Tony and Al revisit Tony’s Near death Experience from 1993 Discussion about a new movie titled “After Death brings excitement and new discussion to the fact that there really is Life after Death Metheny discusses how he was a serial killer in the making since his early childhood. From hurting insects then animals to other kids in his neighborhood. Metheny talks in detail with Tony about his first kill. Something he has never discussed before. He was 15 and his victim was a 12 year old red...

Season 5 Episode 3 “A Monster In The Making”

October 16, 2023 11:00 - 47 minutes - 32.6 MB

This episode starts with Tony reading a description of one of Joe Metheny’s chilling murders.  Metheny describes why he believes his mom is at fault for him becoming a serial killer.  In a letter titled “Tears of a Child” Metheny describes his childhood and how he was left on the streets of Baltimore at the age of 6 to fend for himself.  Tony and Al through Metheny’s letters and phone calls prove that Metheny is a narcissistic sociopath that truly has no feelings or empathy for what he ha...

Season 5 Episode 2 “ Getting To Know Joe”

October 09, 2023 11:00 - 46 minutes - 32.1 MB

In todays episode we’re going to get to know a little bit about Joe Metheny Joe Metheny is the personification of evil. He didn’t try to hide who he was, there were no masks. He is one of the most vile people that you will ever hear about.  Tony explains that when he got the letter from Metheny in January 2007 he really didn't know anything about these maniacs back then.  But now after 15 years of communicating with them and learning so much about these psychopaths, It’s like he got a PHD...

Season 5 Episode 1 Joseph Roy Metheny “The Cannibal Creator” The Beginning

October 02, 2023 11:00 - 55 minutes - 37.9 MB

A serial killers true life story as told by Joe Metheny to Tony Ciaglia over a 7 year relationship.  In the first of 12 episodes Tony and Al discuss some of the things they will be covering this season as they take a deep dive into the little known real life of Joe Metheny. Metheny’s first kill of a 12 year old girl when he was 15 Metheny discusses why he became a serial killer  Killed mostly hookers and he enjoyed torturing them before he killed them When he was a trucker he would pick...

Season 4 Episode 18 Part Two Bonus Q & A Call with some of our Murderphoniacs

June 05, 2023 11:00 - 50 minutes - 35 MB

Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some of the Murderphoniacs Manfried West’s remarkable artwork Robert Hansen and his secret cabin Our future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can help Clues regarding finding Hansen’s secret cabin A discussion of what was their favorite season.  What killer would they like us to cover next. 

Season 4 Episode 17 Part One Bonus Q & A Call with some of our Murderphoniacs

May 29, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 54.9 MB

Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some  of the Murderphoniacs! Points of Discussion: Manfried West’s remarkable story of change Robert Hansen and his secret cabin Our future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can help Clues regarding finding Hansen’s secret cabin A surprise call on the Murder Phone from Hadden Clark  A discussion of what was their favorite season.  What killer would they like us to cover next. 

Season 4 Episode 16 Finding Megan Emerick “Finding The Cabin (Again) Part 2”

May 22, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 42 MB

Tony and Al welcome Joey to the podcast to discuss how they are going to finally find Hansen’s secret cabin. When these 3 get together you need to get ready to laugh. A summary of  the season and where they are at today. The guys go over man of the clues and information that they will use to find the cabin. Tony sums up why they believe now is the time to find the cabin: We have Manfried’s notes,  We the map of the coastline where the cabin is, pictures of the cabin,  We have satellite...

Finding Megan Emerick: Episode 15 A discussion with Manfried West's former attorney Bill Satterberg

May 15, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 52.7 MB

Tony and Al have a fascinating discussion with Bill Satterberg. Bill was Manfred’s attorney back when Joe Vogler was killed. Bill talked with Manfried before our call and received permission from him to talk about the case. We learn exactly how the killing of Joe Vogler took place and that Bill felt Manfried had an excellent self defense case. You will hear the real story of how Joe Voglers body was found.  No one has ever heard this story including Bill Satterberg.  During there  last c...

Finding Megan Emerick: A discussion with Manfried West's former attorney Bill Satterberg

May 15, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 52.7 MB

Tony and Al have a fascinating discussion with Bill Satterberg. Bill was Manfred’s attorney back when Joe Vogler was killed. Bill talked with Manfried before our call and received permission from him to talk about the case. We learn exactly how the killing of Joe Vogler took place and that Bill felt Manfried had an excellent self defense case. You will hear the real story of how Joe Voglers body was found.  No one has ever heard this story including Bill Satterberg.  During there  last c...

Season 4 Episode 14 Finding Megan Emerick “Finding The Cabin (Again) Part 1”

May 08, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 57.9 MB

Tony and Manfried are now in present day so everything they do from now on is about finding the cabin and of course bringing Megan Emerick home.  Tony had to make sure that Manfried was still on board so he asks him if he still wants to try to find the cabin. He shares their most recent conversation, and here is just a little of what we learn: Manfried wants to do it, but you can tell he’s fed up. The only one he trusts to be involved is Tony. Hansen built the cabin with his wife and 2 ...

Season 4 Episode 13 Finding Megan Emerick “Moving Ahead, On Our Own”

May 01, 2023 15:00 - 1 hour - 53.9 MB

In 2013 for some unknown reason the plug was pulled on the investigation to find the cabin where Megan Emerick was buried. Tony and Manfried never gave up and decided they would use all the information that they had compiled and move ahead on their own. Tony was constantly trying other ways to find Hansen’s cabin. This included many attempts through Hollywood connections that always led to dead ends.  In 2017 Tony was receiving puzzling emails from Manfried regarding a Production company a...

Season 4 Special Episode "The Venom of the Black Widow"

April 24, 2023 11:00 - 24 minutes - 17.2 MB

In this Special Episode Tony share's one of his original writings from 2008.  The Venom of the Black Widow is the story of a woman that just can't stand the thought of her boyfriend leaving her.  Laverne Holton has her own unique way of keeping the man she loves close to her. 

Season 4 Episode 12 Finding Megan Emerick “We’re On Our Own!”

April 17, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 48.3 MB

Tony discusses questions he has received about living life with a TBI.  Manfried is so happy to be back in Alaska. Listen to a conversation he has just after he gets back.  Manfried really wants to find Megan Emerick, but he’s beginning to think something is up. Everything went silent and none of us know why.  Manfried once again reiterates that he can pinpoint the location of the cabin if he can just get a little help. Manfried sends some more exciting information about the cabin hoping ...

Episode 11 Finding Megan Emerick “The Frozen Ground” Movie Plays a Part!

April 10, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 42.1 MB

The  newspaper article is once again causing big problems for Manfried.  Manfried tells Tony that he wants to meet with the lady from Seward, Shiela Squires and Agent Gary who didn’t know about the article. He wanted nothing to do with the agent that he felt leaked the article that truly put him in danger.  At this time they are seriously looking for the cabin, but Agent Gary is still going to Gage and trying to get information from other people. Manfried doesn’t understand this because on...

Season 4 Episode 10 Finding Megan Emerick “The Newspaper Article”

April 03, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 45.1 MB

Tony explains that because of what happened to Megan Emerick, Mary Thill and the rest of Hansens victims that we owe it to them to cover this the right way.  The whole point of this season is to complete the search for this cabin  that we started in 2008, and we’re going to need a lot of help with this.  It has to become a Murderphoniac team effort.  I believe that everyone that sticks with us and is involved will have a feeling of satisfaction like never before.  After 15 years it’s hig...

Season 4 Episode 9 “The Cabin” The Center for Missing and Exploited Children

March 27, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 49.7 MB

The ball is rolling and The National center for Missing and Exploited Children have joined the search for the Cabin where Megan Emerick is buried. Megan was last seen in Seward, Alaska on July 7, 1973. Investigators believe the serial killer Robert Hansen may have been involved in Megan's disappearance, but he denied any involvement in her case.  Hansen did admit to Manfried that he brought Megan Emerick out to the Cabin, killed her and buried her there.    Hansen drew a sketch of the ca...

Season 4 Special Episode: “Fuck My Life”

March 20, 2023 11:00 - 30 minutes - 21.3 MB

Tony has suffered with severe depression for the past 4 weeks, so he felt it was time for some light hearted comedy. Today he will share his fictional tale about a really bad day.  It’s titled “Fuck My Life” Tony’s favorite pastime is writing and over the years his favorite topic was comedy. He often would send the criminals copies of his writings. Manfried especially loved Tony’s stories. Tony shared Fuck My Life with him back in September of 2008. You will hear a short conversation clip ...

Season 4 Special Episode: Message from Your Host Tony Ciaglia about TBI “The Silent Epidemic”

March 13, 2023 11:00 - 55 minutes - 38.3 MB

I suffered a severe TBI in July 1992 when I was struck in the head by a jet ski. Very little was know back then about Traumatic Brain Injury and it was a miracle that I survived.  Traumatic Brain Injury then was known as “The Silent Epidemic”. It is now March 2023, more than 30 years after my accident, and TBI is still considered The Silent Epidemic.  It is my mission in life to try and shed some light on this terrible injury and to enlighten the public on the life long effects that this i...

Season 4 Episode 8 Finding Megan Emerick “The Cabin”

March 06, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 43.9 MB

The odyssey to find "The Cabin" continues. The search becomes very real when the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children gets involved.  Manfried finally gets out of the hole and you’ll hear a conversation between Tony and him describing how he handled the Hansen situation.  West gets sent to an Arizona prison on Con Air and he continues to ask Tony for help on the Cabin and finding Megan Emerick and Mary Thill.  Tony is busy trying to keep up with writing to the other 20 to 30...

Season 4 Episode 7 “Joe Vogler, The FBI, The Hole”

February 27, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 44.5 MB

Tony reveals a letter that Manfred’s attorney sent to the Parole Board in 2022 although Manfried’s hearing isn’t until 2025.  This is not a normal occurrence and you can see that Mr. Satterberg  clearly believes that Manfried acted in self defense, and that he has reformed himself and deserves parole.  Tony hears about the Cabin for the first time and the fact that Hansen told him where it is.  Tony and Al were heading to Alaska for a visit with Manfried when all hell breaks loose.  Some...

Season 4 Episode 6 Finding Megan Emerick “The Story Starts Now”

February 20, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 46.2 MB

Tony and Al prepare to go to Alaska to visit Manfried and meet Robert Hansen at  the Alaskan Native Dinner. However Tony had no way of knowing that things were happening that would change the course of his relationship with West. During the next several months you will see a dramatic change in the events surrounding Manfried and Hansen!Hansen went from being Bob, to being referred to as The Worm, and for good reason.  Tony is going to take you through all of the stories, twists and turns...

Season 4: A Message from Your Host Tony Ciaglia

February 13, 2023 12:00 - 19 minutes - 13.3 MB

March is Brain Injury Awareness month.  Tony being a TBI survivor has decided to share one of his writings discussing the despair that comes with having severe depression caused by his Brain Injury..  This is a moving and very personal account of what brain injury can cause. .

Season 4 Episode 4 Getting to Know Robert Hansen. Part 2 Slipping through the Cracks of Justice, Early years, The Crimes,

February 06, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 45.8 MB

Manfried West and Robert Hansen, Nature vs Nurture: Manfried West nicknamed Robert Hansen “The Worm”  This is his story. Robert Hansen grew up hating his father who constantly subjected him to ridicule and mockery, and a mother who was compliant in the harsh treatment of her son. The bullying Hansen suffered as a child shaped his hatred of women. He was painfully shy, had a stutter and severe acne that left him permanently scarred.  Not receiving the attention he wanted from the attractive...

Episode 4 Getting to Know Robert Hansen The Cellmate From Hell

January 30, 2023 12:00 - 56 minutes - 38.9 MB

In this episode we’re going all the way back to when Manfried West met his “Cellmate from Hell” Robert Hansen for the very first time.  We will hear directly from Manfried West what it was like sharing a cell with the Butcher Baker.   Hansen covered up who he was and acted so nice, you would never know how bad he is because he wears the Serial Killer Mask even in prison. Manfried had to read a book about Hansen’s crimes before he realized what he did.  Hansen didn’t talk much about killi...

Episode 3 Getting to Know Manfried West Part 2 “Hatred and Anger/Cookies and Coffee”

January 23, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 51.6 MB

Manfried walked through life with nothing but Hatred and Anger controlling his actions.  He learned and lived the criminal life style at an early age.  Manfrieds mom talks about his terrible upbringing and the way he was treated by his father. The frequent beatings and constant mental abuse.  His mother admits how she failed him.  Manfried tells how he shot his friend Joe Volger and how he should have died when a cabin he was in burned and collapsed on him.  In prison now Manfried West...

Episode 2 Getting to Know Manfried West Part 1 The Early Years

January 16, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 52.9 MB

Manfred Forest West was born in 1956 in Jayville New York. He is in prison for murder 2 and other charges.  Manfried grew up angry and mad at life in the backwoods of the  mountains in upstate New York.  They lived 4 miles from the nearest neighbors, the deep wilderness became his playground. Creeks, lakes, and old abandoned trail roads, caves and trees. His toys were sticks, old car parts, deer and bear skulls.  Manfred’s Father was a drunk, lived off the land hunting and trapping year-r...

Season 4 Episode 1 “Finding Megan Emerick” The Beginning

January 09, 2023 12:00 - 1 hour - 42.9 MB

Megan Emerick went missing in 1973 from Anchorage, Alaska and is still listed as a missing person. She was believed to be a victim of serial killer Robert Hansen, and the case still remains open. This is a long and involved story that covers a lot of years of investigation. Tony and his dad Al will be covering every aspect of this investigation, from its beginnings in 2008 to where we currently are today. Remember what we’ve always said, the wheels of justice move slowly  Tony will share M...

Living With A Traumatic Brain Injury

December 26, 2022 12:00 - 12 minutes - 8.62 MB

Host Tony Ciaglia a TBI survivor shares some of his writings about Life with A Brain Injury

Season 3 Bonus Episode Murder Phone Zoom Call Q & A

December 12, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 50.7 MB

Tony and Al take questions from Top Tier Murderphoniacs Tony and Al share the audio from the very first Buy Me A Coffee Murderphonic member Zoom call.  This up close and personal zoom call with Tony and his dad is a great forum for really getting to know the hosts of Murder Phone.  The discussion covers general questions such as” Which season did you like the best Who is the worst serial killer out of the 3 seasons What would you like done with the Root Cellar and Scalps Who would you l...

Season 3 Bonus Episode Murder Phone Zoom Call Q & A

December 12, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 50.7 MB

Tony and Al take questions from Top Tier Murderphoniacs Tony and Al share the audio from the very first Buy Me A Coffee Murderphonic member Zoom call.  This up close and personal zoom call with Tony and his dad is a great forum for really getting to know the hosts of Murder Phone.  The discussion covers general questions such as” Which season did you like the best Who is the worst serial killer out of the 3 seasons What would you like done with the Root Cellar and Scalps Who would you l...

Season 3 Episode 10 “Goodbye Art”

December 05, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 52.3 MB

This last episode of Season 3 will cover the sudden death of Arthur John Shawcross,  Our last visit was September 8th, 9th, and 10th 2008 Arthur John Shawcross died November 10th, 2008 This is the final story Before he died he says in a letter: “You’re Welcome Anthony, I have written and given you what I have never given to anyone else Anthony and that is a blow by blow of the crimes I did in Rochester. As for the other two crimes that will stay hidden. Don't even go there. Actually I h...

Season 3 Episode 9 Arthur John Shawcross, Poems, Puente, Dr Stone,Victims and Narcissism

November 28, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 44.6 MB

Tony was very interested in the thought process of  serial killer’s in prison and poems are a great form of expression. Shawcross shared many poems with Tony and they turned out to be thoughtful, dark and at times hopeful.  This episode will cover some short bits and pieces about Serial Killer Dorothea Puente  Dr Stone, who put together a scale determining who is “Most Evil” Tony and Al will detail the graphic descriptions of the murders of Victim #6 Elizabeth Gibson and Victim #7 June ...

Season 3 Episode 8 Keith Jesperson “The Happy Face Killer” and Arthur John Shawcross “The Genesee River Killer, Square Off!

November 21, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 53 MB

“Fuck This Maggot” Keith Jesperson “The Happy Face Killer” and Arthur John Shawcross “The Genesee River Killer, Square Off In this Episode Tony and Al are going to cover something very rare in the serial killer world. Keith Jesperson sent Arthur Shawcross a letter which was shared with me.  Art was not very happy with what Keith had to say, and wrote in large letters “Fuck This Maggot” across the top of the letter.  As you can only imagine the responses from Shawcross aren’t very pretty...

Season 3 Episode 7 John Douglas, Arthur John Shawcross The Case of the Missing Head

November 14, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 49.9 MB

John Douglas, The Mindhunter himself sent Arthur Shawcross a letter, who in turn sent it to Tony Tony has so much respect for John Douglas and this is one of his most prized possessions.  Mr Douglas’ letter is handwritten and signed by him. It’s on FBI stationary with the FBI Gold Badge on the top.  Tony and Al are going to cover what he asked of Shawcross and Art’s response that he shared in a couple of letters. Tony will also share the details of the Dorothy Keeler murder.  Arthur Sh...

Season 3 Episode 7 John Douglas, Arthur John Shawcross The Case of the Missing Head

November 14, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 49.9 MB

John Douglas, The Mindhunter himself sent Arthur Shawcross a letter, who in turn sent it to Tony Tony has so much respect for John Douglas and this is one of his most prized possessions.  Mr Douglas’ letter is handwritten and signed by him. It’s on FBI stationary with the FBI Gold Badge on the top.  Tony and Al are going to cover what he asked of Shawcross and Art’s response that he shared in a couple of letters. Tony will also share the details of the Dorothy Keeler murder.  Arthur Sh...

Season 3 Episode 6 The Mask of Sanity

November 07, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 50.1 MB

The Mask Of Sanity, is a great term for what these killers use. Think about it, most all of them wore some type of mask,Ted Bundy, Ken Bianchi, Randy Kraft, John Wayne Gacy, Dorothea Puente, Wayne Elmer Henley and the list goes on including our season’s subject Arthur John Shawcross.  Tony will describe a visit with Arthur Shawcross and how his Mask of sanity gradually came off over the two days they spent with him. Tony and Al will share actual stories that were told to them in person by...

Season 3 Episode 6 The Mask of Sanity

November 07, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 50.1 MB

The Mask Of Sanity, is a great term for what these killers use. Think about it, most all of them wore some type of mask,Ted Bundy, Ken Bianchi, Randy Kraft, John Wayne Gacy, Dorothea Puente, Wayne Elmer Henley and the list goes on including our season’s subject Arthur John Shawcross.  Tony will describe a visit with Arthur Shawcross and how his Mask of sanity gradually came off over the two days they spent with him. Tony and Al will share actual stories that were told to them in person by...

Season 3 Episode 5 Arthur John Shawcross Narcissism 101

October 31, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour - 49 MB

Tony points out that all the killers that he deals with are  sociopaths and narcissistic, but Arthur John Shawcross is without a doubt the most arrogant killer that I’ve ever dealt with over the past 16 years. Tony and Al share several of the stories that Arthur wrote about in his letters that show his extreme narcissistic tendencies. Shawcross answers some of Tony’s questions about eating human flesh among other atrocities that he committed. The episode ends with Shawcross writing an ex...

Season 3 Episode 4 Slipping Through The Cracks Of Justice: “Consequences”

October 24, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour - 51.3 MB

Tony is going to start with the Murders of Jack Blake and Karen Hill.Something Art never would discuss with anyone. Shawcross writes a very sarcastic letter to Tony and describes a ridiculous account of what happened to the two children, and warns Tony to never to ask about it again.  In response Tony basically tells Art to go screw himself. Arthur actually apologizes and in his next letter and gives a detailed description of how June Cicero was murdered.  Tony and Al discuss how Plea B...

Season 3 Episode 3 “Growing Up In The House Of Sin” The Making Of A Serial Killer Part Two “Vietnam”

October 17, 2022 11:00 - 1 hour - 52.2 MB

In this Episode Tony will cover some excerpts from Arthur’s book describing his time in Vietnam.  You will also hear more actual conversation with Art describing certain things that happened while he was in “Vietnam” After listening to the atrocities that Art both witnessed and committed in Vietnam, and think about how he was raised,  you’ll understand why Tony and Al believe that his is a classic case of nurturing a monster. Art’s stories become a text book example of Narcissism 101. T...

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