For this episode Tooth sits with Alex 'Defer' Kizu, a veteran graffiti and street artist who has taken into his work into fine art galleries around the world. They talk about his involvement with the LA Bomb Squad, the first west coast graffiti crew in the 1980s. Plus jiu jitsu, Bruce Lee, the multiple times Defer has been shot (in the stomach and in the head) and his family's incarceration in a Japanese internment camp during WWII.