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Summer is finally here, so we’ve got Oakland-based educator and journalist Pendarvis Harshaw in the studio to talk about student loans. Today we’re focusing on folks who have student debt even though they couldn’t complete their four year degree. If this is you, don’t worry—Money Ha Ha is always a No Judgement Zone. We know that even when we make all the “right” choices when it comes to education, factors beyond our control have a huge impact on our student loan debt.


If this sounds too serious, rest assured that we’re bringing the funny along with the facts. There’s an impression of Maya Rudolph on the Netflix show Big Mouth, lots of goodies in the mailbag, a convo on the importance of alone time for dads and a reframe on what our aspirational selves can look like (hint: it involves insoles for your shoes and sun hats). Plus, Yas, Dara and Pen compete to see whose expensive college degree title is the longest.


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Links mentioned in this episode:

Stats on student loan defaults from CollegeBoard.org
Overview of Pew's research on student loan debt
Brené Brown’s Netflix special: Brené Brown: the Call to Courage
Pen on Twitter and Instagram
Pen’s radio show Rightnowish
Pen’s columns for KQED including one about student loans

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