Last week Anja Karlsson Franck spoke to us about Pope Francis’ decision to rescue 12 migrants who were stranded on the Greek Island of Lesbos. Anja argued that we might the Pope’s gesture as a problematic but still politically progressive act. In today’s recording Polly Pallister Wilkins joins forces with some of Anja’s remarks, but cautions us against making the Papacy a standard bearer of humanitarianism in the European migration crisis.