While shame is a universal emotion, does it serves an important purpose? Tune in for an inspiring discussion with Bret Lyon, PhD,SEP, & Sheila Rubin, MA, LMFT, RDT/BCT on their new #book work with Embracing Shame: How to Stop Resisting Shame and Turn It into a Powerful Ally.

#MomentsWithMarianne with host Marianne Pestana airs in the Southern California area on KMET1490AM & 98.1 FM, an ABC Talk News Radio affiliate!

Bret Lyon, PhD, SEP has devoted almost two decades of his life to healing shame. Along with his wife and colleague, Sheila Rubin, he is a founder and co-director of the Center for Healing Shame, and co-creator of the Healing Shame–Lyon/Rubin Method. Through their popular workshops, they have taught thousands of psychotherapists, coaches, and other helping professionals across the world how to more effectively identify and work with shame. Bret holds doctorates in both psychology and drama and has taught at Tufts University, Pomona College, and the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.

Sheila Rubin, MA, LMFT, RDT/BCT, has been researching shame since she was five years old. Sheila is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Registered Drama Therapist, and has taught at JFK University and CIIS, as well as being the eating disorder specialist at a hospital and directing Embodied Life Stories performances. https://healingshame.com/embracing-shame

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