Welcome back to the ModState Podcast.
In this episode John and Nate break down the government shutdown and reminisce about their experiences with the shutdowns (yes, plural) they endured in the U.S. military years ago.

The team then explores the House of Cards real-life politics that is the current shutdown. The major leadership in Washington D.C play a major role in the continued shutdown.

The border wall is the point of contention in this shutdown. John and Nate begin to ask the questions: What is this immigration issue all about? Why did it take 2 years of not getting something done (with unified Republican government) to now try to blame it on the Dems? Who stands to lose the most here?

Want answers? Tune in!