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Modernist BreadCrumbs

19 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 5 years ago - ★★★★★ - 88 ratings

Modernist Cuisine founder Nathan Myhrvold and head chef Francisco Migoya join host Jordan Werner Barry and executive producer Michael Harlan Turkell for Modernist BreadCrumbs, a special series taking a new look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet: bread. Start with starter and then take a look at the discoveries and techniques from Modernist Bread. Enjoy interviews with the bakers, scientists, chefs, authors, millers, and Bread Heads who are shaping the future of bread. We’ll take deep dives into the microbial world, heritage grains, flatbreads, and breads with holes, but we’ll also step back and look at how bread intersects with culture, fermentation, immigration, art, and tradition. Fire up your oven and follow the breadcrumbs.

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Episodes

Episode 16: Still Life with Bread

December 19, 2018 18:26 - 45 minutes - 42.2 MB

In this episode, we’re exploring the intersection of bread and art, and the idea of bread as art. From Renaissance paintings of The Last Supper (complete with pretzels) and still lifes from the Dutch Golden Age to scoring videos on Instagram—the aesthetics of bread, and all that it symbolizes, have long been on display. We'll look for bread in art history with Maite Gomez-Rejon (founder of Art Bites), consider the influence of art on baking with an interview from HRN Happy Hour featuring h...

Episode 15: Deck the Challahs

December 12, 2018 20:00 - 43 minutes - 39.9 MB

It’s a season of celebration, and no matter what you’re celebrating, that usually means baking. Sweet or savory, traditional or cutting-edge, more people fire up their ovens during the holiday season than any other time of the year. In this episode, we're exploring holiday breads and the traditions that bring us back to them, year after year. We'll talk Stollen with Brian Hart Hoffman of Bake From Scratch, Challah with Mike Zaro of Zaro's Bakery, and Pandoro vs Panettone with Italian baker ...

Episode 14: Emboiled in Lyes

December 05, 2018 18:50 - 41 minutes - 38 MB

We're going down the rabbit hole of breads with holes! From the New York vs Montreal bagel debate—and the power of water and lye—to the twists and turns of pretzel history, focusing on the presence of negative space is a positive thing. We'll explore the power of lye with Harold McGee, check out NYC bagel culture with Dianna Daoheung of Black Seed Bagels, learn about the Simit with Zoe Kanan, and head to Pennsylvania's classic Julius Sturgis Pretzel Bakery. Along the way, Nathan Myhrvold an...

Episode 13: Breads Across America

November 28, 2018 17:00 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MB

We're hopping in our Winne-bread-go and hitting the road—to explore the state of regional breads in America! We'll travel to New Orleans for a Po'boy, New England for Anadama, and to Appalachia for Salt Rising Bread, all in search of an answer to the question, "Is there a regional bread culture in the United States?" Featured in this episode are Sandy Whann of Leidenheimer Baking Company, Alison Pray of Standard Baking Company, chef Travis Milton, author Ronni Lundy, and, of course, co-auth...

Episode 12: Flatter, Better, Faster, Stronger

November 14, 2018 17:20 - 44 minutes - 41.3 MB

Flatbreads and quick breads may seem like strange oven-fellows, but hear us out. In the Venn Diagram of bread baking, they both fall in the overlap of “speed” and “differently leavened.” So we're firing up the tonir, the tandoor, the griddle, the bastible, the wok, and even a rock, to travel around the world through bread. We'll chat flatbreads with chef Mike Solomonov of Zahav, head baker Peiwen Lee of Hot Bread Kitchen, and author Kate Leahy of the forthcoming Lavash. Then, producer-at-la...

Episode 11: Something in the Air

November 07, 2018 16:40 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MB

Bread has been paired with other fermentations for millennia—with beer in Russian literature, wine in religious texts, and cheese in sandwiches around the world every day. What is it about bread that makes it a natural ally to these fermented products? Well, bread itself is a fermented product. In this episode, we’ll look at co-fermentations and variations on the process of yeast eating sugar and releasing carbon dioxide. We'll hear from Keith Cohen of Orwasher's Bakery, Nina White of Bobol...

Episode 10: The Grain Revolution

October 31, 2018 16:40 - 42 minutes - 39.3 MB

Industrialization, and the semi-dwarf wheat developed during the Green Revolution, created a disconnect between farming and flour. But now, consumers are rejecting these commodities and rediscovering the foods, flavors, and farmers around us. This episode is about the growing movement to bring back heritage grains and strengthen local and regional food systems. In direct opposition of the Green Revolution, we’re going to the front lines of the “Grain Revolution." We'll hear from author Wi...

Episode 9: Mother, May I?

October 24, 2018 16:15 - 42 minutes - 39 MB

Welcome to Season Two of Modernist BreadCrumbs! It seems only natural—and appropriately poetic—to start this season talking about starters. They’re the inception of the loaf, the first step. You don’t need a starter to make bread, but the story of cultivating yeast from the environment around us—whether you call it “starter,” “culture,” “levain," or “mother”—is what we’re focusing on in this episode, from microbes to miche. We'll hear from Executive Producer Michael Harlan Turkell about hi...

Season 2 Trailer

September 05, 2018 21:32 - 1 minute - 1.63 MB

Modernist Cuisine founder Nathan Myhrvold and head chef Francisco Migoya are back with Jordan Werner Barry and Michael Harlan Turkell for season two of Modernist BreadCrumbs, a special series taking a new look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet: bread. This season builds on where we “startered” last year, looking at the discoveries and techniques from Modernist Bread and interviewing the bakers, scientists, chefs, authors, millers, and Bread Heads who are shaping the future of br...

Episode 8: Breadbox

December 13, 2017 14:00 - 1 hour - 81.1 MB

This is Episode Eight of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “Breadbox.” Bread is immeasurable, no longer bound by precepts. The new dictum of baking bread is built on shapes and sizes we haven’t even dreamt of. This episode, the proverbial breadbox of the series, will hold all the bits of bread we haven’t gotten to yet, or have yet to be made. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest ...

Episode 7: Thermal Mass

November 29, 2017 14:00 - 1 hour - 58.3 MB

This is Episode Seven of Modernist BreadCrumbs: "Thermal Mass," on baking and ovens. We’ll discuss “thermal mass," or the ability to absorb and hold heat, in two-parts: within bread itself, and the ovens it's baked in. It’s a complex physicochemical process… that’s more than just hot air. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet—bread. Although it...

Episode 6: Balls & Sticks

November 22, 2017 14:00 - 53 minutes - 48.8 MB

This is Episode Six of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “Balls & Sticks,” on shapes, scoring, and semiotics. Balls & sticks. You’ll hear this idiom over and over in this episode, as if we’re talking in circles. The two shapes' repetitive figures have been a constant in bread’s identity over time, but why? Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet—bread. Alth...

Episode 5: Against the Grain

November 15, 2017 14:00 - 55 minutes - 50.7 MB

This is Episode Five of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “Against the Grain,” on politics. How does bread play a part in politics you ask? Withholding grain has been part of party lines as well as a catalyst of war. Though the fight still continues to bring bread to those impoverished and underfed around the world, we urge you to chew on this: become as active as a sourdough starter, and be part of the bread revolution. Rise up! Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with He...

Episode 4: Milling About

November 01, 2017 13:00 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MB

This is Episode Four of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “Milling About,” History Part II, Pre-Industrialization. When we look back on how modern baking came to be, it’s the same old story of craft informing art, and how the artisanal approach was replicated through the aid of mechanization. This episode picks up where Episode One left off, telling bread's life story from All Purpose to Zopf. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cu...

Episode 3: On the Rise

October 25, 2017 13:00 - 56 minutes - 51.7 MB

This is Episode Three of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “On the Rise,” on yeast, leavening, and fermentation. Here, we observe a microscopic single-celled organism from the fungi kingdom, and its full effect on bread: yeast. How can something so small make such a big impact? When it comes to bread, the proof really is in the proofing. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest stapl...

Episode 2: The Great Civilizations of Grain

October 18, 2017 16:00 - 1 hour - 66.6 MB

This is Episode Two of Modernist BreadCrumbs: “The Great Civilizations of Grain,” on grains, flour, and milling. In this episode, we look inside with a kernel of knowledge, sprout ancient grains, and take a journey through wheat’s history. We could go on for flours. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet—bread. Although it may seem simple, bread...

Modernist BreadCrumbs Live: Nathan Myhrvold in Conversation with Michael Harlan Turkell

October 11, 2017 15:47 - 58 minutes - 53.4 MB

Nathan Myhrvold and Michael Harlan Turkell kick off Modernist BreadCrumbs, their new podcast series on Heritage Radio Network, with a special conversation about the future of bread. Myhrvold will share insights from his new 5-volume book Modernist Bread (on sale November 7, 2017), the inspiration behind the podcast, as well as what the Modernist Cuisine team learned over four years of nonstop research, photography, experiments, writing and baking. From its surprising history to the complex s...

Episode 1: Pre-ferment

October 04, 2017 21:06 - 59 minutes - 54.1 MB

This is Episode One of Modernist BreadCrumbs: "Pre-ferment," on the history of bread. Modernist BreadCrumbs is a special collaborative podcast series with Heritage Radio Network and Modernist Cuisine, that takes a fresh look at one of the oldest staples of the human diet—bread. Although it may seem simple, bread is much more complex than you think. From the microbes that power fermentation to the economics of growing grain, there’s a story behind every loaf. Each episode will reveal those ...

Modernist BreadCrumbs trailer

October 04, 2017 15:51 - 2 minutes - 2.41 MB

trailer for Modernist BreadCrumbs, a new podcast series by Heritage Radio Network