The One Where Matt's Phone Keeps Interrupting

For some reason, Matt can't seem to remember to turn off his phone before we start recording. Listen for the phone calls and the texting.

This episode is specifically in reference to the shooting of Linden Cameron, the 13-year-old in Salt Lake City on the autism spectrum. How could that happen? Is there training that could be better? Are there others who are better to respond to the type of help the mother was requesting?

Thankfully, Linden has survived the shooting.

We also wonder why this incident did not get the same coverage that shootings of people who are not white.

You'll hear Mike say, "You ever notice the cops don't come out and say 'I'm sorry.'"

You'll hear Matt say, "I walked into a recruitment office when I was 18 and then I walked out."