How does David Bowie figure into our conversation? It's embarrassing, actually - for Matt. Enjoy it.

We catch up from our weekend and discuss how we can make America great again. When is that time period that we want to go back to? And what does it mean to make America great again? And was the United States of America made for everyone?

We also will talk about how black people and white people might view figures such as Santa...or Jesus differently.

After some random thoughts at the end, and a brief interruption from George, we will wrap up our episode.

You will hear Mike say, "I just want to know when we all going to make it great for everybody"

You will hear Matt say, "Nope...still not talking about anything interesting."

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