In this episode, we discuss the second of Michael DeFrancesco's interviews with Fr. Rivers in the last few years of Rivers’ life, recently posted to YouTube. Emily and Eric are joined by Fr. Tom DiFolco, retired priest of the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and fellow friend of Fr. Rivers. The three point out interesting features of the second DeFrancesco interview, especially his comments on the role of priest as a cultic function, discussing Rivers’ insights and their broad-ranging implications for worship and the role of priests today. As a bonus, find out what the “DiFolco Death Stare” is in this engaging conversation on worship, inspired—as usual—by Fr. Rivers. For Episode 33 Show Notes, click here.