Emily and Eric welcome Black Catholic podcasters Nate Tinner-Williams and Lorna DesRoses to Meet Father Rivers to celebrate Black Catholic History Month (November) with the first-ever Rivers Reading Club. Participants discuss one of Fr. Rivers’ most provocative and insightful pieces of writing: a chapter called “The Oral African Tradition Versus the Ocular Western Tradition.” The chapter is available as a free download, compliments of Orbis Books (see Show Notes for the link). We discuss Fr. Rivers’ critique of the unexamined cultural forces that cause liturgy in North America to limp: the sight-biased and discursive tendencies of Western European-descended cultures. Hosts and guests share their thoughts on Rivers’ ideas in our liturgical current context and discuss whether progress has been made since Rivers first published the piece. For Episode 21's Show Notes, click here.