ECFR’s director Mark Leonard discusses with Tom Nuttall, Brussels bureau chief for the Economist and Ulrike Franke, ECFR's Policy Fellow, whether the Brexit negotiations will be influenced by the changes to the liberal order unleashed by Donald Trump's election.The podcast was recorded on 17 January 2017.Bookshelf:Zadie Smith, Swing TimeMichael Lewis, The Undoing ProjectBruce Chatwin, In PatagoniaZygmunt Bauman, Liquid ModernityPicture: Max Pixel CC

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