On Episode 4 of The Perfectors, Tesi sits down with Ceci Hall of Humanity Forward, a nonprofit dedicated to continuing the movement inspired by Andrew Yang’s 2020 Presidential Campaign and to making its core ideas a reality, including universal basic income, and HUMAN-centered capitalism. The women talk about the finer points of universal basic income and direct cash relief, and how money needs to get directly to people, not corporations. Ultimately the conversation encourages listeners to be an active part of our democracy.