Episode 250: Poking Holes in Systems of Injustice with Rebecca Nagle

On Episode 250 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Leslie and Tesi sit down with Rebecca Nagle, a queer, indigenous activist, writer, and speaker. Nagle is a citizen of the Cherokee Nation and is one of the founders of FORCE: Upsetting Rape Culture, an organization led by artists and activists who attempt to promote a culture of consent. She is also the host of the popular and fascinating podcast THIS LAND, which focuses on the 1839 assassination of a Cherokee leader and a 1999 murder case and how these two crimes provide a backbone to an upcoming 2019 Supreme Court decision that will determine the fate of five tribes and nearly half the land in Oklahoma. During this rich conversation, the three women talk about Nagle’s work with sexual abuse survivors, how she has used art to further tough conversations and make bold statements to shake the collective psyche out of the status quo, and how we have to think about poking holes in those huge systems that are at play in our culture. It’s a great conversation with an incredible guest! Listen in! (For complete Show Notes, visit the Mama Bear Dares website.)