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Making Room on the Pew

40 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 3 years ago - ★★★★★ - 5 ratings

A podcast for the spiritual misfits & outcasts.

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Episodes

Episode 32: Being an Ethnically Jewish Anglican with Sarahbeth Caplin

May 04, 2021 09:00 - 27 minutes - 25.4 MB

Sarahbeth Caplin is a writer, editor, and author based in northern Colorado, where she lives with her husband and two spoiled kitties.  . . .  Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and on my website at baileyjowelchpomerantz.com.

Episode 31: Sex, Masturbation, & Sexual Ethics with Kelly Wolfe

April 27, 2021 09:00 - 42 minutes - 39.5 MB

Kelly Wolfe is a creative, a question-asker, an Enneagram 8w9, and passionate about seeing all people welcomed, affirmed, elevated, and able to lead in the Church.  .. . .  Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and on my website at baileyjowelchpomerantz.com. 

Episode 30: National Infertility Week & How to Support Those Experiencing Infertility

April 20, 2021 09:00 - 34 minutes - 32.2 MB

Suzanne writes at Views From the Sidelines, where she works through her own observations about the American Church. After 7 years of marriage, she and her husband are walking through infertility and Suzanne was gracious enough to chat with me about how we can better support those in similar situations to herself. . . . Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelchpomerantz.com.

Episode 29: What the Church Is and Is Not with Kate Boyd

March 23, 2021 09:00 - 40 minutes - 37.9 MB

Kate Boyd is a writer, speaker, and Bible teacher centered on creating community full of intimacy and integrity. . . .  Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelchpomerantz.com.

Born Again and Again with Megan Westra

March 16, 2021 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.7 MB

Megan Westra is a dynamic and passionate public speaker, podcaster and author of Born Again and Again (Herald Press, 2020). With over a decade of pastoral experience, she is deeply committed to the work of the Kingdom on earth as it is in heaven, and particularly in the Sherman Park neighborhood of Milwaukee, where she’s lived and worked for ten years with her husband Ben, and daughter, Cadence. . . .  Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelchpomerantz.com.

How to Live a Fully Authentic Life with Chelsea Anderson

March 09, 2021 10:00 - 41 minutes - 38.2 MB

Chelsea Anderson is a writer, speaker and podcaster with a passion for mental health awareness, addiction recovery and helping people live their best, authentic lives. Her work seeks to create awareness & empathy for those suffering, both in families and society. Reaching out to historically marginalized people and advocating for increased mental health treatment funding are special priorities. As a member of the LGBTQ community and former U.S. Army soldier, Chelsea offers a firsthand perspe...

Queerness is Holy with Rev. Bailey Brawner

March 02, 2021 10:00 - 33 minutes - 31.4 MB

Rev. Bailey Brawner (she/her) is a pastor, speaker, writer, LGBTQIA+ activist, and podcast host, who lives and works at the intersection of faith and sexuality. Bailey moved from Alaska to San Diego with her dog, Oakley, and is appointed as the Senior Pastor at Mission Hills United Methodist Church, a Reconciling congregation. Her unique perspective and identity has made her a prominent leader in the queer faith spaces in the UMC and in digital ministry spaces. Across her work, Bailey lives i...

Episode 25: The Events at the Capitol & the Importance of Making Room on the Pew

February 26, 2021 10:00 - 13 minutes - 12.1 MB

Welcome to Season 3! It’s time to make a change. It’s time to lay down our pride and our weapons, whether they be words, guns, or the Bible, and settle in for hard conversations. It’s time to gather around the campfire, halfway between our camp and theirs, and bring an open heart and curious mind. I am longing for a community who prioritizes love over hate and people over theology—maybe you are too?  . . .  Connect with Bailey on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelchpo...

How To Be Antiracist with Tori Williams Douglass

June 16, 2020 09:00 - 56 minutes - 51.8 MB

Join Tori Williams Douglass and Bailey as they sit down to talk about race, state-sanctioned racial terrorism, and the difference between being not racist and being antiracist. Connect with Tori on Twitter @toriglass and learn more about how you can do your part with White Homework whitehomework.com and on Instagram @whitehomework. You can also monetarily support Tori and her work by becoming a Patreon at patreon.com/toriglass.  . . . Connect with Bailey on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjow...

Holy Week 2020: Holy Saturday

April 11, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, darkness fell over the world and there was nothing to do but wait. Just wait. Death is here now, but Resurrection is coming. Isaiah 53 Matthew 27:57-66 Mark 15:42-47 Luke 23:50-56 John 19:38-42 Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . . . Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelch....

Holy Week 2020: Good Friday

April 10, 2020 11:40 - 54 minutes - 50.1 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, Jesus, the Son of God, was sentenced to death. After a hasty trial and enduring mockery, humiliation, and torture at the hands of the Empire, he was executed by the State. Psalm 22 Matthew 26:47-75 and Matthew 27:1-56 Mark 14:43-72 and Mark 15:1-41 Luke 22:47-71 and Luke 23:1-49 John 18 and John 19:1-37 Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’...

Holy Week 2020: Maundy Thursday

April 09, 2020 11:31 - 50 minutes - 46.6 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, Jesus ate with his disciples and revealed to them the events of the coming days. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . . . Connect with me on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelch.com. 

Holy Week 2020: Wednesday

April 08, 2020 09:00 - 15 minutes - 14.8 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, Jesus continued to preach his shocking message of grace, love, and redemption, painting a picture of an upside-down kingdom where the first is last and the greatest, the least.  Deuteronomy 6:1-6   Matthew 22:34-46 and Matthew 23 Mark 12:28-40 Luke 20:41-47 Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . . . Connect with m...

Holy Week 2020: Tuesday

April 07, 2020 09:00 - 16 minutes - 15.3 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, the people in power - the rich, the elite, the educated, the religious leaders - challenged Jesus, asking him to prove that he was who he claimed he was. Questioning everything he was and stood for, they tried to disprove that Jesus’ power truly came from the greatest One of all. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . ...

Holy Week 2020: Monday

April 06, 2020 11:36 - 8 minutes - 8.14 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, Jesus got angry. Showing us the very human part of himself, Jesus allowed his holy rage to spill out as he overturned tables and berated those who were using the temple in Jerusalem as nothing more than a place to do business rather than worship God.  Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . . . Connect with Bailey on I...

Holy Week 2020: Palm Sunday

April 05, 2020 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.6 MB

On this day, over 2,000 years ago, Jesus - Emmanuel, God with Us - rode into Jerusalem on a borrowed donkey. His arrival was met with great jubilation and celebration, but only he knew it was the beginning of the end of the life of God wrapped in skin. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this most important week of the year in the life of yourself and your family. Happy Holy Week, friends. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus. . . . Connect with Bailey on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelc...

Episode 24: Using Adventure as an Antidote to Grief with Sheri Hunter

March 31, 2020 11:38 - 43 minutes - 40.3 MB

Join Sheri Hunter and Bailey as they sit down to talk about grief, adventure, and how the intersection of the two gave Sheri her life back. Connect with Sheri on Twitter @SheriHunter and grab a copy of her new book, Daring to Live: How the Power of Sisterhood and Taking Risks Can Jump-Start Your Joy wherever you buy your books. (Please remember to support your local bookstores if you can during this time that small businesses need all the support we can give!)  . . . Connect with Bailey on...

Episode 23: How to Survive a Global Pandemic (Without Losing Your Humanity)

March 17, 2020 09:59 - 28 minutes - 26.3 MB

Join Rev. Sarah Welch-Pomerantz and Bailey as they talk about COVID-19, social distancing, and the current state of the world. . . .  Connect with Bailey on Instagram and Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelch.com. . . . Want to support the podcast? We're over on Patreon and we would be honored to partner with you to further this work. Even just $1 per month really helps, but we'll certainly accept support in any amount :) Check out the perks each supporter receives depending on the lev...

Episode 22: Why Immigration Policy & Procedure Matters with Hannah Vickner Hough

March 10, 2020 11:00 - 32 minutes - 30.1 MB

Join Hannah and Bailey as they sit down to talk about immigration, policy and procedure surrounding immigration, and why it really matters for real people. They also talk about why we should care about what's happening in immigration right now, specifically in America, and how Hannah's faith informs her work (and the other way around!). Hannah is an immigration attorney and currently works as the Immigration Program Director at The Legal Aid Society. Keep learning about immigration policy an...

Episode 21: Angelia White is Teaching Us How to Be "Yes Sisters"

February 25, 2020 12:10 - 32 minutes - 30.3 MB

Join Bailey as she sits down with Angelia White, author of the new book, Yes Sisters: Surrounding Yourself with Women Who Affirm, Encourage, and Challenge You. They talk about why Angelia decided to write this book, the story behind the story, how Angelia began Hope for Women magazine, a quarterly publication with a reach of 200,000, and how to affirm, encourage, and challenge our friends to become "Yes Sisters" ourselves.  . . .  Angelia L. White is the creator of Hope for Women magazine,...

Episode 20: All People Need People (Yes, Even Single People) with Holly Stallcup

January 28, 2020 10:00 - 53 minutes - 50 MB

Join Bailey Welch-Pomerantz and Holly Stallcup as they talk about singleness, marriage, and seeing God in both. Holly teaches us that we don't build unity by ignoring our differences, but rather by showing up in our differences. Don't miss Bailey's very favorite quote from Holly during this conversation: "The Church can't BE what they can't SEE."  . . .  Holly Stallcup is the the founder & Executive Director of Rise living with her beloved dog Jack in Fort Worth, Texas. Holly teaches, prea...

Episode 19: Lament is a Holy Thing with Abby Norman

January 21, 2020 10:00 - 47 minutes - 44 MB

Join Bailey Welch-Pomerantz and Abby Norman as they talk about the joys and challenges of parenting in today's world, the education system, and race relations. Abby reminds us that it's okay to be wrong and shows us how by teaching us how to apologize to our kids. The last few minutes is Bailey's favorite part, as Abby dives deep into the holiness of lament.  . . .  Abby Norman is the pastor of a church plant in Atlanta with her husband and two daughters. After nine years of teaching in th...

Episode 18: The Best of 2019 (& Our 2020 Words of the Year)

January 07, 2020 10:00 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MB

Join Bailey and Sarah on this special holiday episode as they discuss their favorite books, movies, TV shows, and sermons of 2019. They also share the biggest lesson they each learned last year, why there's a few episodes missing from the podcast (hint: HONEYMOON), and give an adoption update since there finally is an update to be given! Then they wrap up this episode by talking about their words of the year for 2020 and why they chose them.  . . .  Favorite Books of 2019:  Stay Sexy & Do...

Episode 17: Laura Jean Truman is Sparking Our Imaginations This Advent Season

December 10, 2019 10:00 - 32 minutes - 29.8 MB

Laura Jean Truman is a writer and substitute bartender living in Atlanta, GA. She holds a BA in Philosophy from the University of New Hampshire and an MDiv from Emory University: Candler School of Theology. Follow her on Twitter and Instagram at @LauraJeanTruman and on her blog at laurajeantruman.com.  Join us as we talk about the Advent color debate (blue v. purple), being an Enneagram 1 during Advent, and what Laura Jean loves most about this season of the church calendar.  . . . Connect wi...

Episode 16: Learning that Advent is a Waiting Game with Lyndsey Medford

December 03, 2019 10:00 - 30 minutes - 28.1 MB

Lyndsey Medford is a writer, speaker, activist, and author of the guided journal, Making Friends With My Body and God. She also manages autoimmune disease and a tiny front-yard garden. Lyndsey holds a Master's degree in Theology from Boston University, but she's most proud of her improv theater and gluten-free baking skills; her family; and her rescue dog Miya's dainty high-fives. She writes regularly on her email newsletter, "Justice and Joy," and at lyndseymedford.com. Join us as we talk...

Episode 15: Thanksgiving and the Importance of Gratitude

November 26, 2019 10:00 - 37 minutes - 34.6 MB

Join Bailey and Sarah on this special holiday episode as we discuss Thanksgiving, historical inaccuracies of the holiday, and how it actually started (hint: Abraham Lincoln). We also give an update on the status of our adoption journey and talk about what we're most thankful for this year. And, of course, we discuss our least favorite and most favorite holiday food! . . . The poem shared in the middle of this episode is written by Kaitlin B. Curtice, a Native American Christian author and ...

Separated at the Border with Gena Thomas

November 19, 2019 10:00 - 55 minutes - 51.1 MB

Gena Thomas is a writer and advocate living in Tennessee with her husband of 10 years, Andrew, and their two children. After living as missionaries in Mexico for four years, Gena now writes books and works as an instructional design specialist at a nonprofit that equips local churches with a theology of holistic development. Join us as Gena and I talk about her new book and the incredible true story which birthed it. Weaved in with the telling of this story, we also discuss immigration, the ...

How to Scoot Over and Make Some Room with Heather Avis

August 06, 2019 09:43 - 40 minutes - 37.7 MB

Heather Avis is a writer, social media influencer, and - as she puts it - shouter of worth. (I love that so much.) She and her husband Josh live in California with their three kiddos, all of whom are adopted, Macyn, Truly, and August. Both Macyn and August have Down Syndrome and Truly is Guatemalan and African-American while the rest of the Avis family is white. Join us as Heather and I talk about adoption, white privilege, and what it means to be a truly inclusive community.  . . .  Connect ...

PSA: Everyone Has Mental Health

July 23, 2019 08:00 - 42 minutes - 39.3 MB

Join Bailey and Rev. Sarah as they talk about mental health, why there is such stigma around it, and what the Bible says about mental health. They also talk about Demi Lovato and some practical ways to take good care of your mental health.  . . .  Episode Highlights:  02:23 Why is there such a stigma around mental health?  07:40 What does the Bible say (or NOT say) about mental health?  17:16 How do we handle shame about mental health?  20:36 Why pastors don't talk about mental health ...

How to Find Healing After Being Hurt by the Church

July 16, 2019 09:00 - 45 minutes - 42.5 MB

Join Bailey & Rev. Sarah as they talk about the Church. They discuss the Early Church in Acts, what church should look like, and how the little, local churches have the power to change the institutional Church for the better. Bailey also talks more about how she's been hurt by the church and cries, not once, but twice! (So you know it's going to be good!) . . .  Episode Highlights:  04:26 What does Sarah actually believe about how the Universe was created?  13:30 What's the difference be...

No One Has the Monopoly on God

July 09, 2019 09:00 - 44 minutes - 41.4 MB

Join Bailey & Rev. Sarah as they talk about what making room on the pew actually means and how we can all be involved in breaking down the barriers around church, God, the Bible, and the Gospel for the misfits and outcasts. They also talk about what theological issues they disagree on and their own experiences being excluded from church and church leadership.  . . .  Episode Highlights: 3:00 Introducing the new podcast format!  07:45 What theological issues do Sarah & Bailey disagree on?...

BONUS: I wrote a book!

April 24, 2019 11:06 - 9 minutes - 8.45 MB

Grab your copy of Flickers of Hope: Daily Invitations to Find God in the Midst of Sorrow on Amazon here!  . . .  Connect with me on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelch.com.  . . .  Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review if this content is encouraging you or positively impacting you in any way. If you share on social media, please use #MakingRoomOnThePew and tag me! 

Rev. Emmy Kegler is a Seeker of Lost Coins

March 27, 2019 10:27 - 42 minutes - 39.7 MB

Rev. Emmy Kegler is the pastor of Grace Lutheran Church in Northeast Minneapolis (gracenempls.org) and the founder and editor of Queer Grace, an encyclopedia of online resources around LGBTQ life and faith (queergrace.com). She pastors a small servant-hearted neighborhood congregation in Northeast Minneapolis focused on feeding the hungry and community outreach, and is co-leader of the Queer Grace Community, a group of LGBTQ+ Christians in the Twin Cities who meet for worship, Bible study, an...

Kat Armas is an Egalitarian

March 19, 2019 10:21 - 1 hour - 59.9 MB

Kat Armas is a writer and podcaster who's passionate about theology, coffee, and the ways the two intersect. She is currently living in Los Angeles, California, and is pursuing a Master of Divinity and a Master of Arts in Theology at Fuller Seminary. Kat and her husband own a coffee roasting company. Their goal is to provide the best cup of joe, while building deep and meaningful connections with farms and communities overseas.  . . .  Connect with Kat on Twitter @kat_armas and at katarmas.co...

Hearing God's "Yes!" Over the World's "No" with Rev. Sarah Welch-Pomerantz

March 13, 2019 11:28 - 58 minutes - 53.9 MB

Rev. Sarah Welch-Pomerantz is the first woman pastor under 40 and the first queer pastor of Community Church of Cedar Grove. She lives with her wife, Bailey, and their two cats in northern New Jersey. Join us as we talk about being a queer woman pastor, Sarah's path to ordination, and how to have positive interfaith conversations.  . . . Connect with Sarah on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter and at revsarahpomerantz.com.  . . .  Connect with me on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter @baileyjowelch and...

Steve Austin is Teaching Us How to Catch Our Breath

January 29, 2019 10:00 - 1 hour - 58.2 MB

Steve Austin was a pastor when he nearly died by suicide. He is the author of two Amazon bestsellers, From Pastor to a Psych Ward, and Catching Your Breath. Join us as we talk about mental health, fear-based theology, and  . . . Connect with Steve on Instagram & Twitter @iamsteveaustin and at iamsteveaustin.com. Grab Steve's latest book, Catching Your Breath here.  . . . Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook @baileyjowelch and at baileyjowelch.com.  . . . Don't forget to ...

Manda Carpenter Believes the Church is for Everyone

January 22, 2019 10:00 - 44 minutes - 41.4 MB

Manda Carpenter is a writer and foster parent living with her husband Eric in Chicago, IL. Join us as we talk about the hard and beautiful ministry of foster care, how to survive your evolving theological beliefs, and who Manda thinks the Church needs to get better at welcoming in.  . . .  Connect with Manda on Instagram, Facebook & Twitter @mandacarpenter and at mandacarpenter.com.  Get involved with #MonthlyLettersOfEncouragement here.  Grab Manda's new devotional, Space: An Invitation...

B.T. Harman, On How to Support Christian Parents of LGBTQ Children

January 15, 2019 10:00 - 47 minutes - 44.1 MB

B.T. Harman is a writer and advocate for compassionate, grace-filled relationship--even when there are disagreements about fundamental ideas and theology. B.T. is the writer of Blue Babies Pink: A Southern Coming Out Story and the creator of Harbor, an online support group for Christian parents of LGBTQ children. Join us as we discuss being a gay Christian, how to foster grace-filled relationships with those we fundamentally disagree with, and how to better support the parents of LGBTQ kids....

Shannan Martin is a Church Misfit

January 08, 2019 10:00 - 55 minutes - 51.4 MB

Shannan Martin is a writer and speaker living as a grateful neighbor with her jail-chaplain husband, Cory, and their four funny children in Goshen, Indiana. Join us as we talk about how to neighbor well, the problem with the American penal system, and being church misfits. . . .  Connect with Shannan on Instagram & Twitter @shannanwrites and at shannanmartinwrites.com. Grab Shannan's new book, The Ministry of Ordinary Places: Waking Up To God's Goodness Around You here.  . . .  Connect w...

Welcome!

November 11, 2018 23:09 - 5 minutes - 5.19 MB

Hosted by writer Bailey Jo Welch, this is a podcast for the church misfits and outcasts.

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