Kirsten shares all about her journey with grace, and what it looks like to treat others with humanity despite hurtful discourse. She breaks down how living a life of grace is more than just “being nice,” but rather leads to kindness and accountability. It’s a great conversation, and we’re so glad to share it with you!

Kirsten Powers is a senior political analyst at CNN and a NYT bestselling author. He latest book is "Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered and Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts." Kirsten formerly was a columnist for USA Today, The Daily Beast, the New York Post, and a political analyst on Fox News.

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