Jacob and Tony rap with the illustrious activist, author, and podcast host, Hope Giselle. Hope talks to us about her first experiences being gendered, her time as the trans-rights activist at Alabama State, why Black men won't fully accept trans-women, what we all can do to be better allies with the trans-community, among other things. Be sure to swing by Hope's website and buy her new book, Becoming Hope, Removing the Disguise.

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