Jon and Jeff interview Atticus Stovall of the University of Virginia, a lidar guru and all-around nice person, live from the top of a mountain at the University of Tennessee Biological Station near the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Atticus gives his thoughts on forest ecology and solar induced fluorescence as well as telling some stories about traveling to Toolik, New Mexico, and many place in between. The gang also establish Combos as the null model for gas station snack food.