Joe Vrola was a surprising guest. 


One of the reason is that, to be frank, I knew little about the man before we had our conversation. Basically, I knew he is a filmmaker and leans conservative in his politics, and that he reached out to me with an interest in coming on the podcast. 


So, when this conversation went so deep into areas of the heart and soul, it was far from expected. You folks know by now, if you've been listening, that I like to help my guest share from their heart, and Joe opened his right up.


We discussed his movie, we then transitioned into a political foundations, and then veered into counseling, addiction, obsession, God and religion, AA and all kinds of other things.


This was a special conversation with a man who's only now beginning to emerge onto the social media scene because he's created something he's proud of. It was a pleasure getting to know Joe, and I'm happy to offer you the chance to do the same.


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