With over 25 years in the real estate development industry, Francis Scire has leased outlets, open-air lifestyle centers, traditional enclosed shopping centers, and a downtown revitalized retail core. Before COVID-19, social distancing, and stay-at-home advisories, retail faced challenges from online shopping and changing consumer habits. How will retail survive in a post-pandemic world? My talk with Francis is a bit of a warm-up for our discussion at the Congress for the New Urbanism's annual meeting.