We first aired this episode back in July 2019, and it was recorded in the studio when Ocean was on the international tour for his novel On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous. It’s a really rich and beautiful conversation, full of the kind of thoughtful insights Ocean is known for, but also a lightness and optimism that feels right for summer. And we also thought it would coincide nicely with the publication of Ocean’s latest book, a poetry collection called Time is a Mother, which is out now. But we didn't want you to miss out on our summer reading recs, so we've recorded a new intro with lots of inspiration for your holiday reads too. Enjoy!

Favourite recent reads:
Octavia: Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck, translated by Michael Hoffman
Carrie: The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt

Looking forward to reading:
Octavia: Intimacies by Katie Kitamura; Death Valley by Melissa Broder
Carrie: The Summer Book by Tove Jansson

Find a list of all recommended books at: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/august-2023-ocean-vuong-re-run

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