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Like Minded Deviants

36 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 8 ratings

Like-Minded Deviants with Dr. Lindy Backues, Jon-Michael Odean, and Justin Stewart-Fritz is a podcast that seeks to deviate from the norm. As two of Lindy’s former graduate students, Justin and Jon-Michael bring an extended friendship with him cultivated over years, enriched by their present ministries, life as educators, a good dose of grassroots practitioning, and deep respect as close friends and colleagues. Each week these three come prepared to engage in a provocative conversation. A conversation that intentionally and sometimes irreverently unpacks events and ideas plucked from newspapers and headlines, unashamedly channeling these conversations through a theologically jarring lens.

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A Language for Growth: Attempting to Name the Mystical

August 25, 2022 08:00 - 55 minutes - 38.4 MB

In previous episodes we have suggested the importance to push beyond deconstruction into a process of reconstruction.  We believe such a move to not only be possible, but helpful.  What does such a move look like?  How can we talk about it, what sort of language best helps us to identify such a disruptive yet exciting process? Join us in this episode as we focus on the sort of speech that can help us better understand the process of deconstruction and reconstruction, outlining the helpful "...

Evangelicalism Part 5: Moving to Reconstruct through Streams of Mysticism

June 22, 2022 08:00 - 57 minutes - 39.4 MB

Over the course of this season, we have been making a case for deconstruction of the traditional Evangelical faith system. We have been saying that healthy moves and progress are often found as one throws off the legalism and the surveillance mentality found in much of American Evangelical faith systems. Maturity can result in the loss of a person's cherished Evangelical faith system, landing the journeyer in a place of skepticism, doubt, and secularism. As we have said, this can be a move t...

Evangelicalism Part 4: Deconstruction Continued; Moving from Fundamentalist to Secularist, Arriving at the Mystical

May 17, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 42.1 MB

Deconstruction is a word that one finds floating around in Christian circles quite a bit lately.   For some, the term promises liberating possibilities, an open door allowing fresh air into a context that has long felt stifled.  For others, the deconstruction process is dangerous, something that provokes deep anxiety, a move that threatens an unnecessary (and perhaps heretical) dismantling of valuable, historic non-negotiables at the heart of the Christian faith. With that in mind, in this...

Evangelicalism Part 3: Deconstruction

May 02, 2022 09:00 - 56 minutes - 38.6 MB

Get ready for part 3 of our Evangelicalism series where JM, JSF, and Dr. Lindy Backues discuss deconstruction in light of our context in Evangelical America today.  This conversation ranges from discussing why deconstruction can sometimes be healthy to a deep dive into the phenomenon itself in with helpful language to make sense of its natural place within a faith journey. As always we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts, and we may even t...

Evangelicalism Part 2: What's up with "Christianese"? The language of Evangelicalism in America; why it matters and the baggage it brings.

March 18, 2022 10:00 - 52 minutes - 36.1 MB

Join us for our first Friday release for the second episode in the "Evangelicalism" module, where Lindy, JSF, and JM dive deep into a conversation on "Christianese" in America today (yes we know--very "meta'). It is commonplace knowledge that how we as humans talk and the language we use affects how we see the world around us.  In short, the language we use helps shape the way we experience life.  An offshoot of this is – especially for those of us from the Evangelical world – the langua...

Evangelicalism Part 1: Examine the Lens. What is it? Where's your starting point?

March 01, 2022 09:00 - 51 minutes - 35.8 MB

Welcome back for season 2 of the Like-Minded Deviants Podcast! We begin season 2 with the first in our multi-episode module on Evangelism. In this episode, we take a biographical and personal look at what has come to be called Evangelicalism in the West--predominantly the cultural phenomena in the United States.  Where did it come from?  What was it in response to?  What did it do?  How has it changed?  JM and JSF give us some insight into their own family histories as they have woven in...

Season 2 preview! New Episodes Soon.

February 15, 2022 09:00 - 6 minutes - 4.36 MB

Join us for our Preview for season 2 of Like-Minded Deviants as we loop you in for a few program updates, and release schedule as we get set for season 2!  We are so excited to be back and look forward to our first module releasing in the near future! We have been so excited by the response to our podcast and we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think, send us your thoughts,  we may even try a few!  Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmd...

BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap. Reflecting on the season.

October 06, 2021 19:00 - 1 hour - 46.5 MB

Join us for our last episode of the first season--appropriately themed Bar-Talk episode as we reflect on the season as a whole, its impact on us, and what we have in store for season 2. In these episodes we connect for a lower key/more relaxed conversation, what we like to call, the conversation after the class! So please, go grab a drink and join us! As a bonus episode, we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think while we have some fun and take a few liberties with t...

BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap. Reflecting on the season... and what comes next!

October 06, 2021 19:00 - 1 hour - 46.5 MB

Join us for our last episode of the first season – appropriately themed Bar-Talk episode as we reflect on the season as a whole, its impact on us, and what we have in store for season 2. In these episodes we connect for a lower key/more relaxed conversation, what we like to call, the conversation after the class! So feel free to grab a drink and join us! As a bonus episode, we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think while we have some fun and take a few liberties wit...

The Answer: The Church...Christian Community as a Counter Force?

October 06, 2021 19:00 - 48 minutes - 33.1 MB

Throughout this season we have arrived at the idea that the Church is not in itself the Reign of God, but the Reign of God is both its starting point and its goal. So that leads us to the question, how does the Church (as God’s idea) address the ‘crackedness’ of the cosmos (the problem of evil we explored at the beginning of the season)?  How does it ‘dramatize’ and manifest grace, love, justice, and the dream of God?  Join us this week in our final content episode of the season (paired wit...

Bookshelf Episode! Macro-Economics Part 1: What Is It?

September 14, 2021 09:00 - 22 minutes - 15.5 MB

Join us for a new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Macro-Economics.  Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

Toolbox Episode! Macro-Economics Part 2: A Theological Critique and the Environmental Crisis.

September 14, 2021 09:00 - 52 minutes - 36.2 MB

Join us for the second part, and main conversation in our "Toolbox"* episode, where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Macro-Economics, our Metaphors, the environmental crisis, Globalization, Internationalization, and The Pathetic God. Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Toolbox episode pairs with a shorter "Toolbox" mini-episode, on for a short lecture unpacking or describing the part...

Toolbox Episode! Macro-Economics Part 2: A Theological Critique and the Environmental Crisis

September 14, 2021 09:00 - 52 minutes - 36.2 MB

Join us for the second part, and main conversation in our "Toolbox"* episode, where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Macro-Economics, our Metaphors, the environmental crisis, Globalization, Internationalization, and The Pathetic God. Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Toolbox episode pairs with a shorter "Toolbox" mini-episode, on for a short lecture unpacking or describing the part...

Toolbox Episode! Socialism Part 2: A Theological Critique

September 07, 2021 09:00 - 48 minutes - 33.6 MB

Join us for the second episode of our new "Toolbox"* where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Socialism and The Pathetic God. Bob Goudzwaard, Capitalism and Progress: A Diagnosis of Western Society.  Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1979 (ISBN: 978-0853647706). David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-742...

Bookshelf Episode! Socialism Part 1: What is it?

September 07, 2021 09:00 - 21 minutes - 14.6 MB

Join us for a new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Socialism. Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

Toolbox Episode! Socialism Part 2: A Theological Critique.

September 07, 2021 09:00 - 48 minutes - 33.6 MB

Join us for the second episode of our new "Toolbox"* where we delve into a theological engagement and critique of Socialism and The Pathetic God. Bob Goudzwaard, Capitalism and Progress: A Diagnosis of Western Society.  Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1979 (ISBN: 978-0853647706). David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-742...

Toolbox Episode! Capitalism Part 2: A Theological Critique.

August 31, 2021 09:00 - 50 minutes - 34.5 MB

Join us for the first of our new "Toolbox"* For a theological engagement and critique of Capitalism and The Pathetic God. Ellul, Jacques, Money and Power.  Second Edition, Downers Grove, Illinois: Inter-Varsity Press, 1984 (ISBN: 978-0877849162). David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vanco...

Bookshelf Episode! Capitalism Part 1: What is it?

August 31, 2021 09:00 - 18 minutes - 13.1 MB

Join us for the first of our new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Capitalism. Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

Bookshelf Episode! Capitalism Part 1: What Is It?

August 31, 2021 09:00 - 18 minutes - 13.1 MB

Join us for the first of our new "Bookshelf" mini-episode for a quick and dirty "Lindy-Notes" lecture on Capitalism. Contact Us! Twitter: @PodLmd Facebook: facebook.com/LMDPod Web: lmdpod.buzzsprout.com Email: [email protected] *Note: Each Bookshelf episode pairs with a longer "Toolbox" episode, engaging each topic through a theologically critical lens. Think of the "Bookshelf" to Theory and "Tool Box" as praxis. 

Toolbox Episode! Capitalism Part 2: A Theological Critique

August 31, 2021 09:00 - 50 minutes - 34.5 MB

Join us for the first of our new "Toolbox"* For a theological engagement and critique of Capitalism and The Pathetic God. Ellul, Jacques, Money and Power.  Second Edition, Downers Grove, Illinois: Inter-Varsity Press, 1984 (ISBN: 978-0877849162). David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vanco...

Principles for Economic Life: Stewardship

August 24, 2021 09:00 - 53 minutes - 36.5 MB

In the Church today there is confusion as to how storied, biblical truth might be translated into principles, themes, and motifs that later can be applied to the world that surrounds us.  Like finding a common note in a song, or a common image in a story, we can locate repeatedly appearing images, ideas, or themes running throughout the biblical story, ones that can help us evaluate the economic and political world around us. In this episode we explore a particular, overarching concept we b...

The Kingdom of God

August 17, 2021 11:00 - 1 hour - 41.9 MB

What is the goal of all of this?  Where was Jesus headed?  If we are to offer grace as God offered grace, if we are to love in a way that aligns with the Cross, if we are to be just in a way that frees the chains of the poor, how does that fit with the message of the gospel, the message that Jesus came to preach, the core of the message found in the New Testament? The core of that message can be found in the phrase ‘The Kingdom of God’ – but, as Christian persons who often claim to know abo...

Justice Part 2: Tangible Justice!

August 10, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 44.2 MB

Justice is a concept, a concept that can be very theoretical and abstract.  But, we must ask ourselves, what does justice look like? Justice - like everything else we examine  -  must look like Jesus!  Jesus came to fulfill justice proactively, in community, so that we might live and participate in a way that is dynamic, actively toward the fringes and margins of the system, so that those who have previously been excluded by the system might taste participation in the community.  In order f...

Justice Part 1: What is it?

August 03, 2021 09:00 - 50 minutes - 34.8 MB

The word justice appears in a lot of places in the biblical record.  As a community seeking to follow the pattern of Jesus – a community attempting to live in a way that is Christomporphic, that is ‘in the shape of Jesus’ – we must put the idea of justice as central to our understanding of the good news as did Jesus. The trouble is, though, we often do not know what justice is.  We often see justice as a ‘one-size-fits-all’ rule that everyone needs to obey equally.  The idea of justice need...

Justice Part 1: What Is It?

August 03, 2021 09:00 - 50 minutes - 34.8 MB

The word justice appears in a lot of places in the biblical record.  As a community seeking to follow the pattern of Jesus – a community attempting to live in a way that is Christomporphic, that is ‘in the shape of Jesus’ – we must put the idea of justice as central to our understanding of the good news as did Jesus. The trouble is, though, we often do not know what justice is.  We often see justice as a ‘one-size-fits-all’ rule that everyone needs to obey equally.  The idea of justice need...

Love?! What does that even look like?!

July 27, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 35.7 MB

So many of our popular songs, hit movies, favorite poems, social media spin around us the notion of love.  We all teach about love, sing about love, long for love, shoot--we even cry out for love! That being so, surely we must know what love is, right?!  No doubt, we got love down, don’t we, since we seem obsessively focused on it almost all of the time? Not so fast! Let’s be real, WE know, that YOU know, that we really mean different things when we say, ‘we LOVE tacos’ and ‘we LOVE our sign...

Love?! What Does That Even Look Like?!

July 27, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 35.7 MB

So many of our popular songs, hit movies, favorite poems, social media spin around us the notion of love.  We all teach about love, sing about love, long for love, shoot--we even cry out for love! That being so, surely we must know what love is, right?!  No doubt, we got love down, don’t we, since we seem obsessively focused on it almost all of the time? Not so fast! Let’s be real, WE know, that YOU know, that we really mean different things when we say, ‘we LOVE tacos’ and ‘we LOVE our sign...

Grace: Response Ethics to the Divine Act

July 20, 2021 11:00 - 48 minutes - 33.7 MB

Episode 8 – Response Ethics to the Divine Act (Grace) In this episode we begin to address the problems (of evil) that we looked at in previous episodes.  If we take our previous conversations seriously, we will notice we are a bit stuck – in fact, if left to ourselves, we seem completely screwed.  There seems no way out – our systems are fallen, our cosmos and the world we live in has fallen and, perhaps most daunting, we ourselves are deeply cracked, broken, and we represent a huge part of...

Epicurean Redux!

July 13, 2021 09:00 - 43 minutes - 29.6 MB

Epicurean Redux: The Pathetic God?!  We take a renewed look at the Epicurean dilemma: what needs to give?  Is God loving but not powerful?  Is God powerful but not loving? Neither loving or powerful?  Is there another option?  How does this Christian God suffer the existence of evil? Richard Bauckham, God Crucified : Monotheism and Christology in the New Testament. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Wm B Eerdmans Publishers, 1999 (ISBN: 978-0802846426) Richard Bauckham, 'In Defence of the Crucified G...

BONUS EPISODE! BAR Talk: The conversation after class and on-tap!

July 13, 2021 09:00 - 56 minutes - 38.8 MB

Join us for our first (of many) Bonus Episodes. This time we connect for lower key/more relaxed conversation, what we like to call, the conversation after the class--and this time in a much-enjoyed bar talk! So please, go grab a drink and join us! As a bonus episode, we want these to be informed by YOU, so let us know what you think while we have some fun and take a few liberties with the format of these episodes! So check out our contact info below and send us your ideas and we may try a f...

Evil: Hardwired and Baked In

July 06, 2021 09:00 - 42 minutes - 29.4 MB

Evil is not merely personal; it is also systemic and structural and outlives us all.  Wickedness is tied to and enshrined in our laws and governmental structures.  What should God do about that?  What should we do about that?  What does all of this mean for those of us who wish to be good? Texts: David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A...

The Evil Acts of God

June 29, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 35.1 MB

Evil is bigger than humanity - seeing as how there is a cosmic side to evil, how should we fit that into our theology?  Here we take a broader look at the brokenness of creation and the problem this presents for those of us who wish to stand before a just God. Texts: David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Chri...

Epicurean Paradox: Evil Exists!

June 22, 2021 11:00 - 57 minutes - 39.4 MB

We’ve got a problem that is bigger than evil.  We look around and evil exists - but what do we do with God in the face of evil?  This episode dives rather deeply into this dilemma that has haunted thinkers for millennia.  If there is evil, how can a loving God stand by?  If there is evil, how can a powerful God be loving? Texts: David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (IS...

The Nature of Truth

June 15, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 35.2 MB

In the West, we have long been taught that truth is found in objective, universal data points, independent formulas and equations.  Christian theological views of truth challenge that assumption, with storytelling serving as the bedrock of what we can and should know. Texts: David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A. Hay, Economics Today...

Pilot: Welcome to the Community of Like Minded Deviants

May 18, 2021 14:00 - 43 minutes - 29.6 MB

Welcome to the Like Minded Deviants (LMD) Podcast! In this episode, Jon-Michael, Lindy, and JSF talk through what LMD is, why they are passionate about this project, and what is to come. David P. Gushee & Glenn H. Stassen, Kingdom Ethics: Following Jesus in Contemporary Context. Second Edition, Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2016 (ISBN: 978-0-8028-7421-4). Donald A. Hay, Economics Today: A Christian Critique. Vancouver: Regent College Publishing, 2004 (ISBN: 978-157383284)....

Pilot: Welcome to the community of Like Minded Deviants

February 18, 2021 15:00 - 43 minutes - 29.6 MB

Welcome to the Like Minded Deviants (LMD) Podcast! In this episode, Jon-Michael, Lindy, and JSF talk through what LMD is, why they're passionate about this project, and what's to come.

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