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Like Mind, Like Body

106 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 month ago - ★★★★★ - 602 ratings

Struggling with chronic pain? Listen in to learn about the amazing ways our thoughts, feelings, and experiences can impact our physical health and perpetuate symptoms. On each episode, we interview physicians, researchers, and ordinary people who have incredible stories to tell about the power of the mindbody connection. This podcast is a free resource brought to you by Curable: the #1 app for chronic pain self care. Learn more at curable.com

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Solving the Personality Puzzle (Callie Klebanoff, LCSW)

March 15, 2024 15:06 - 1 hour

People pleasing, perfectionism, worrying, oh my! In this episode of the Like Mind, Like Body podcast, returning guest Callie Klebanoff, LCSW, is back to unpack the complex interplay between personality traits and pain. Prepare to explore how our experiences shape our habits, how our habits shape our personality traits, and most importantly, how to apply this knowledge to reduce your chronic symptoms.

"Hot Takes" on Healing (Bernice Hurtado, LCSW)

February 16, 2024 15:06 - 1 hour

Join Like Mind, Like Body host, Christie Uipi, LCSW, and special guest, Bernice Hurtado, LCSW, as they challenge common mindbody recovery tools and share practical, applicable strategies for seeing success with these techniques in the real world. Tune in to hear helpful “hot takes” on breath work, cultivating safety, meditation, success stories, journaling, and more.

Treating the Brain and the Body (Charlie Merrill, MSPT)

November 17, 2023 15:06 - 56 minutes

Charlie Merrill, MSPT, helps clients heal by combining traditional, hands-on, manual physical therapy with the mindbody, biopsychosocial approach. Tune in to hear what he’s learned from years of treating a wide variety of patients, including some of the best athletes in the world, and how these learnings can help you on your journey.

Making Friends With Your Fears and Your Feelings (Daniel Lyman, LCSW, MPA)

September 20, 2023 15:06 - 41 minutes

Do you find yourself stuck in a loop of obsessive thoughts about pain? You are not alone, and Daniel Lyman, LCSW, has just the techniques to help you through it.

Recharge, Reframe, Reclaim: The Role of Race in Pain (Benita Jackson, PhD, MPH)

July 19, 2023 16:12 - 29 minutes

Race, rest, recharging, and revitalizing: this episode covers it all. Join Christie Uipi, Founder of the Better Mind Center, and Benita Jackson, PhD, MPH, for a wide-ranging conversation about the next wave of chronic pain research.

Why It’s Okay to Be Skeptical About Healing (Lilia Graue, MD, LMFT)

May 17, 2023 16:12 - 42 minutes

When it comes to healing, do you need to believe that there is only one “right path” for you? Dr. Lilia Graue doesn’t think so. In this episode, she shares her take on how skepticism and uncertainty can be welcomed in as a natural part of the healing journey. This episode is hosted by Christie Uipi, LCSW, Executive Director of the Better Mind Center.

Your Experience is Valid (Kamil Lewis, LMFT)

February 22, 2023 16:15 - 32 minutes

"Taking care of yourself is a resilient act, one that requires vulnerability, rest, and compassion." That’s the advice that Kamil Lewis, LMFT, gives to her clients who are struggling with chronic pain. In this fan-favorite episode from 2020, Kamil offers validation and guidance on navigating experiences that contribute to chronic pain, like oppression, marginalization, and burnout. Join us to learn tips on building community, validating your experience, and reigniting your sex life in the fac...

Chronic Pain No More

November 17, 2022 16:40 - 33 minutes

"I don’t consider myself to have chronic pain anymore.” This is a sentence you don’t expect to hear from a friend who has experienced decades of unexplained symptoms. For Phil, however, it’s exactly what happened. Tune in to hear how Phil’s struggles with back pain, neck pain and fibromyalgia led him to the physical, mental, and emotional healing journey of a lifetime.

"The Mother of Mindfulness" Gives Her Take on Chronic Pain (Ellen Langer, PhD)

October 19, 2022 16:40 - 39 minutes

“When we get a diagnosis, we tend to hold it still. Then we assume that it’s going to stay that way or get worse. People hear the word ‘chronic' as ‘uncontrollable' or ‘incurable.' Nothing in and of itself is incurable. All that means is that we haven’t yet found the way to cure it.” In this episode, the “Mother of Mindfulness,” Harvard professor Dr. Ellen Langer, gives her take on chronic pain. Join us to learn about how mindlessness impacts daily life, the benefits of embracing uncertainty,...

Finding Hope in the Darkness

September 28, 2022 15:00 - 36 minutes

Years ago, Dan received a cancer diagnosis. He underwent major surgery to remove the tumor from his spinal cord, but his life changed drastically when he woke up paralyzed from the chest down. Although his sensation eventually returned, it brought excruciating pain along with it. Join us to hear how Dan went from daily pain levels of 8-10 to a near full recovery in one year.

A Neurologist’s Perspective on Chronic Pain (Dr. Dario Zagar)

August 17, 2022 16:30 - 37 minutes

Dr. Dario Zagar is no stranger to chronic pain. In addition to treating it in his office every day, he’s experienced symptoms like migraine and back pain in his own life. Today, Dr. Zagar is an associate professor at Yale and a practicing neurologist, and he is determined to help people with pain find the same relief that he did.

Slow and Steady Recovery from Post-Concussion Syndrome

June 08, 2022 15:17 - 41 minutes

After participating in her college horseback riding team, Katia started to experience a combination of physical symptoms that baffled her. Her constant background headache, whiplash, and body aches eventually turned into migraines that lasted for half of each month. Katia was later diagnosed with Post-Concussion Syndrome and spent years shrinking her life to fit around her symptoms. Today, Katia has finally discovered her path to healing and managed to reduce her symptoms by about 85% over th...

How to Get Back to Your Favorite Activities, With or Without Pain

May 11, 2022 15:00 - 59 minutes

There are two key questions Dr. Asare Christian asks each of his patients in their first meeting: “What is your understanding of why you have pain?” and “What has your pain prevented you from doing?” Answering these questions, he believes, is critical to developing a treatment plan that is actually going to work. In this episode, we examine each question in-depth, understanding why each is so important and what can be done with the answers.

How to Get Back to Your Favorite Activities, With or Without Pain (Dr. Asare Christian)

May 11, 2022 15:00 - 59 minutes

There are two key questions Dr. Asare Christian asks each of his patients in their first meeting: “What is your understanding of why you have pain?” and “What has your pain prevented you from doing?” Answering these questions, he believes, is critical to developing a treatment plan that is actually going to work. In this episode, we examine each question in-depth, understanding why each is so important and what can be done with the answers.

Set the Right Goals For Your Healing (Callie Klebanoff, LCSW)

April 06, 2022 14:15 - 40 minutes

Wish you could reduce your pain? Of course you do. But according to Callie Klebanoff, LCSW, pain reduction is not always the best goal to set at the start of your healing journey. Tune in to hear about how her unconventional starting point can improve the odds of long-term success.

Set the Right Goals For Your Healing

April 06, 2022 14:15 - 40 minutes

Wish you could reduce your pain? Of course you do. But according to Callie Klebanoff, LCSW, pain reduction is not always the best goal to set at the start of your healing journey. Tune in to hear about how her unconventional starting point can improve the odds of long-term success.

What is Pain Neuroscience Education? (Dr. Adriaan Louw)

March 02, 2022 14:10 - 34 minutes

Can the simple act of learning about pain actually help you to heal it? The short answer is 'yes.' In this episode, one of the world’s leading experts in Pain Neuroscience Education (PNE), Dr. Adriaan Louw, joins us to explain how and why.

What is Pain Neuroscience Education?(Dr. Adriaan Louw)

March 02, 2022 14:10 - 34 minutes

Can the simple act of learning about pain actually help you to heal it? The short answer is 'yes.' In this episode, one of the world’s leading experts in Pain Neuroscience Education (PNE), Dr. Adriaan Louw, joins us to explain how and why.

What is Pain Neuroscience Education?

March 02, 2022 14:10 - 34 minutes

Can the simple act of learning about pain actually help you to heal it? The short answer is 'yes.' In this episode, one of the world’s leading experts in Pain Neuroscience Education (PNE), Dr. Adriaan Louw, joins us to explain how and why.

What Does Long Term Recovery Look Like?

January 19, 2022 15:56 - 1 hour

How long can relief from chronic pain and symptoms really last? Is any hope of recovery temporary, or can changes in the brain and nervous system last a lifetime? In this episode, we speak to real people who have recovered from chronic pain and symptoms to find out.

When Work Becomes Painful: Brandon’s Recovery Story

November 17, 2021 15:19 - 29 minutes

Today’s story comes from Brandon, an engineer whose mysterious hand pains eventually led him into a year-long medical leave. He joins us on the show to share the specific steps he took to get from a daily pain level of 8 to a daily pain level of almost nothing.

What The Latest Study on Chronic Back Pain Means For You (Yoni Ashar, PhD)

October 27, 2021 14:20 - 35 minutes

What’s more effective at treating chronic back pain: the usual standard of care, a placebo, or psychotherapy? That’s the question Yoni Ashar, PhD, sought to answer in his latest randomized clinical trial. Join us as Dr. Ashar talks through the results of his study and breaks down what it all means for people in pain.

What The Latest Study on Chronic Back Pain Means For You

October 27, 2021 14:20 - 35 minutes

What’s more effective at treating chronic back pain: the usual standard of care, a placebo, or psychotherapy? That’s the question Yoni Ashar, PhD, sought to answer in his latest randomized clinical trial. Join us as Dr. Ashar talks through the results of his study and breaks down what it all means for people in pain.

Diagnosis Overload: Dr. Etrian Lim’s Recovery From Chronic Symptoms

August 18, 2021 13:45 - 39 minutes

After 10 years of conflicting diagnoses and mysterious flare-ups, Dr. Etrian Lim had no idea whether she’d ever find relief from the litany of symptoms that plagued her. She found herself having to lie down between seeing patients, going to her own medical appointments almost daily, and occasionally using a wheelchair. Join us as Dr. Lim shares what’s happened over the past year that led her to 80% symptom reduction and a quality of life she never thought she could find again.

How to Create a Safe Space for Healing (Dr. Trung Ngo)

July 21, 2021 15:10 - 40 minutes

Have you ever felt that you simply don’t have the time, resources, or emotional bandwidth that it would take to heal? You’re not alone. In fact, according to Dr. Trung Ngo, this is one of the most common barriers to healing success. From his experiences as a refugee from Vietnam to his clinical work with complex, chronic diseases, Dr. Ngo has gained a deep understanding of the process of overcoming hardships. He shares an exciting new tool he’s using with patients to help them create a safe s...

An Unexpected Road to Back Pain Recovery: Nathan's Story

June 30, 2021 15:05 - 34 minutes

Nathan has struggled with symptoms of back pain, IBS, fatigue, and a laundry list of other ailments since the mid-90s. In this episode, he shares about his experience with John Sarno’s book 'Healing Back Pain', his subsequent discovery of how the science has evolved since the book was written, and his life-changing journey of rewiring and reducing all of his symptoms. Tune in to hear about his routine with the Curable app, experience with Nicole Sachs’s 'Journal Speak' technique, and more.

An Unexpected Road to Back Pain Recovery

June 30, 2021 15:05 - 34 minutes

Nathan has struggled with symptoms of back pain, IBS, fatigue, and a laundry list of other ailments since the mid-90s. In this episode, he shares about his experience with John Sarno’s book 'Healing Back Pain', his subsequent discovery of how the science has evolved since the book was written, and his life-changing journey of rewiring and reducing all of his symptoms. Tune in to hear about his routine with the Curable app, experience with Nicole Sachs’s 'Journal Speak' technique, and more.

What Everyone with Chronic Pain Should Know About CBT (Dr. Rachel Zoffness)

May 26, 2021 14:41 - 36 minutes

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy isn’t just a buzzword flying around the chronic pain community, it’s a well-established treatment approach with abundant evidence of effectiveness. That’s why Dr. Rachel Zoffness is on a mission to make it more accessible, cost-effective, and widely used. In this episode, Dr. Zoffness breaks CBT down into simple terms, providing actionable strategies that people in pain can use at home right now. Join us as she advises people in pain AND clinicians on how to harne...

What Everyone with Chronic Pain Should Know About CBT (Rachel Zoffness, PhD)

May 26, 2021 14:41 - 36 minutes

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy isn’t just a buzzword flying around the chronic pain community, it’s a well-established treatment approach with abundant evidence of effectiveness. That’s why Dr. Rachel Zoffness is on a mission to make it more accessible, cost-effective, and widely used. In this episode, Dr. Zoffness breaks CBT down into simple terms, providing actionable strategies that people in pain can use at home right now. Join us as she advises people in pain AND clinicians on how to harne...

What Everyone with Chronic Pain Should Know About CBT

May 26, 2021 14:41 - 36 minutes

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy isn’t just a buzzword flying around the chronic pain community, it’s a well-established treatment approach with abundant evidence of effectiveness. That’s why Dr. Rachel Zoffness is on a mission to make it more accessible, cost-effective, and widely used. In this episode, Dr. Zoffness breaks CBT down into simple terms, providing actionable strategies that people in pain can use at home right now. Join us as she advises people in pain AND clinicians on how to harne...

Becoming 1,000 Percent Me: Stefanie's Recovery from Chronic Pain

April 28, 2021 14:48 - 37 minutes

For 20 years, Stefanie Reyes has navigated life with IBS, migraines, fibromyalgia, panic attacks, anxiety, and depression. Today, she's optimistic that the next 20 years will look very different. After living life at what she calls 30 percent of herself for two decades, Stefanie shares her hopes and plans for a future with less fear, more joy, and radical authenticity.

Becoming 1,000 Percent Me

April 28, 2021 14:48 - 37 minutes

For 20 years, Stefanie Reyes has navigated life with IBS, migraines, fibromyalgia, panic attacks, anxiety, and depression. Today, she's optimistic that the next 20 years will look very different. After living life at what she calls 30 percent of herself for two decades, Stefanie shares her hopes and plans for a future with less fear, more joy, and radical authenticity.

How to Talk to Kids About Pain (Joshua Pate, PhD)

February 02, 2021 20:12 - 24 minutes

Millions of children struggle with persistent symptoms. Millions more watch their parents or loved ones struggle. What they see, hear, and experience during these formative years will have a lasting impact on their adult experience of pain. What can we do to make sure the next generation responds to pain in a healthier way than the generations before them? Dr. Joshua Pate joins us to explore possible solutions.

How to Talk to Kids About Pain (Dr. Joshua Pate)

February 02, 2021 20:12 - 24 minutes

Millions of children struggle with persistent symptoms. Millions more watch their parents or loved ones struggle. What they see, hear, and experience during these formative years will have a lasting impact on their adult experience of pain. What can we do to make sure the next generation responds to pain in a healthier way than the generations before them? Dr. Joshua Pate joins us to explore possible solutions.

Is What You're Doing Getting You the Life You Want? (Les Aria, PhD)

January 20, 2021 13:27 - 25 minutes

Dr. Les Aria found his love in an unlikely place - a chronic pain clinic. For the past 16 years, Dr. Aria’s passion been helping skeptics to believe that pain psychology can help to reduce their physical symptoms. Dr. Aria serves as the Lead Pain Psychologist at Kaiser Permanente Medical Group in Northern California, and has helped countless patients put doubt in their pocket and open their minds to a new way of thinking about pain. Join us to hear more about his unique approach.

Is What You're Doing Getting You the Life You Want? (Dr. Les Aria)

January 20, 2021 13:27 - 25 minutes

Dr. Les Aria found his love in an unlikely place - a chronic pain clinic. For the past 16 years, Dr. Aria’s passion been helping skeptics to believe that pain psychology can help to reduce their physical symptoms. Dr. Aria serves as the Lead Pain Psychologist at Kaiser Permanente Medical Group in Northern California, and has helped countless patients put doubt in their pocket and open their minds to a new way of thinking about pain. Join us to hear more about his unique approach.

Your Experience is Valid (Kamil Lewis, AMFT)

November 11, 2020 11:57 - 33 minutes

Taking care of yourself is a resilient act, one that requires vulnerability, rest, and compassion -- that’s the advice that Kamil Lewis, AMFT, gives to her clients who are struggling with chronic pain. In this episode, Kamil offers validation and guidance on navigating experiences that contribute to chronic pain, like oppression, marginalization, and burnout. Join us to learn tips on building community, acknowledging the challenges you've faced, and reigniting your sex life in the face of chr...

When Treating Pain, Mind the Knowledge Gap (Deepak Ravindran, MD)

October 14, 2020 15:39 - 22 minutes

Why do modern pain science and treatment seem so different from one another right now? As a physician and consultant, Dr. Deepak Ravindran observes this gap across thousand of pain patients, providers, and organizations each year. On this episode, he explains how pain patients and practitioners alike can achieve better outcomes by closing their knowledge gaps about how pain really works. Join us to learn about the difference between pain and nociception, what fibromyalgia has in common with b...

Untangling Your Anxiety Pathways (Allan Abbass, MD)

August 26, 2020 16:22 - 29 minutes

Every day, we move through life unconsciously processing a wide range of emotions and anxieties. Whether we realize it or not, the way we handle (or don’t handle) these stresses produces a physiological response in the body. Dr. Allan Abbass explains how this works, why it’s important to understand, and how it leads so many folks down the path to chronic symptoms.

Is Self Compassion the Antidote for Healing Deep Pain? (Jessica Dixon, Mindfulness Coach)

June 10, 2020 14:05 - 47 minutes

After recovering from 20 years of chronic migraine, mindful meditation and self compassion expert Jessica Dixon simply couldn’t go back to “life as she knew it.” Her healing journey had changed the way she experienced life physically, mentally, and emotionally. Deep down, she knew it was time for her talents to be redirected towards helping others find their own way down the healing path. Join us as Jessica shares her journey from chronic migraine sufferer to mindful self compassion coach, me...

Is Self Compassion the Antidote for Healing Deep Pain? (Jessica Dixon)

June 10, 2020 14:05 - 47 minutes

After recovering from 20 years of chronic migraine, mindful meditation and self compassion expert Jessica Dixon simply couldn’t go back to “life as she knew it.” Her healing journey had changed the way she experienced life physically, mentally, and emotionally. Deep down, she knew it was time for her talents to be redirected towards helping others find their own way down the healing path. Join us as Jessica shares her journey from chronic migraine sufferer to mindful self compassion coach, me...

5 Things All Chronic Pain Sufferers Learn the Hard Way (Christie Uipi, LCSW)

April 21, 2020 21:45 - 41 minutes

The road to recovery from chronic pain is unique for everyone. But according to Christie Uipi, the journey almost always holds a few predictable twists. As the former Associate Director of the Pain Psychology Center, Christie helped hundreds transform their relationship to pain.

Can Journaling Help to Release Physical Pain? (Nicole Sachs, LCSW)

March 31, 2020 17:10 - 55 minutes

Nicoles Sachs is no stranger to chronic pain. After overcoming her own physical pain and transforming her life, she knew that her calling would be to help others do the same. Her unique approach to doing that doesn’t involve pills or years of therapy; it simply requires an open mind, a pen, and a piece of paper. Join us as Nicole explains her philosophy and guides you how to use her “Journal Speak” techniques at home.

How Do I Manage Chronic Pain In the Wake of Coronavirus? (Episode 1 of Tell Me About Your Pain)

March 24, 2020 21:30 - 27 minutes

INTRODUCING: Tell Me About Your Pain, a new Curable podcast. In this episode: Chronic pain sufferers share their struggles with navigating Coronavirus anxiety. Kristin grapples with feelings of uncertainty, while Bethany has a difficult time cultivating a sense of safety during the global pandemic of Covid-19. Co-hosts Alan Gordon, LCSW (Founder of the Pain Psychology Center) and Alon Ziv help Kristin and Bethany calm their fears, and discuss how these anxieties connect back to the latest res...

'Pain is an Emotion' with Dr. Bethany Ranes of UnitedHealth Group

March 02, 2020 16:24 - 41 minutes

Dr. Bethany Ranes is a research scientist with a background in cognitive neuroscience. She’s currently working on a project that could dramatically change the future of healthcare for chronic pain patients. Her team at UnitedHealth Group Research and Development is tasked with significantly improving chronic pain patient outcomes over the next 10 years. And to do that, they’re building a new system: one that’s more reflective of modern pain science and one that treats patients from a biologic...

Pain is an Emotion (Bethany Ranes, PhD)

March 02, 2020 16:24 - 41 minutes

Dr. Bethany Ranes is a research scientist with a background in cognitive neuroscience. She’s currently working on a project that could dramatically change the future of healthcare for chronic pain patients. Her team at UnitedHealth Group Research and Development is tasked with significantly improving chronic pain patient outcomes over the next 10 years. And to do that, they’re building a new system: one that’s more reflective of modern pain science and one that treats patients from a biologic...

Who Would I Be Without Pain?: Grace's Recovery from Back Pain After Surgery

December 15, 2019 20:37 - 51 minutes

Grace Theisen is a musician, songwriter, entrepreneur, and activist - all of which are parts of her identity that got shoved to the side after she woke up one day with excruciating pain in her back. A pain that stuck around for the next seven years despite two intensive surgeries and thousands of dollars worth of treatment. Today, Grace has a pretty good idea of where it came from and why it kept getting worse, but it took her nearly a decade to get these answers and find a way to gain contro...

Who Would I Be Without Pain?

December 15, 2019 20:37 - 51 minutes

Grace Theisen is a musician, songwriter, entrepreneur, and activist - all of which are parts of her identity that got shoved to the side after she woke up one day with excruciating pain in her back. A pain that stuck around for the next seven years despite two intensive surgeries and thousands of dollars worth of treatment. Today, Grace has a pretty good idea of where it came from and why it kept getting worse, but it took her nearly a decade to get these answers and find a way to gain contro...

Turning a Downward Spiral Into an Upward Spiral (Alex Korb, PhD)

November 21, 2019 13:15 - 56 minutes

Neuroscientist, writer, consultant, and coach Dr. Alex Korb. Dr. Korb has studied the brain for over 15 years. The more closely he studies conditions like depression, anxiety, chronic pain, and addiction, the more he realizes that they’re not so separate from one another. Join us as Dr. Korb explains how the brain gets stuck in downward spirals and how we can play a role in turning them upside down. Advisory: This episode contains a brief story about suicide. If you are not in a position to l...

Turning a Downward Spiral Into an Upward Spiral

November 21, 2019 13:15 - 56 minutes

Neuroscientist, writer, consultant, and coach Dr. Alex Korb. Dr. Korb has studied the brain for over 15 years. The more closely he studies conditions like depression, anxiety, chronic pain, and addiction, the more he realizes that they’re not so separate from one another. Join us as Dr. Korb explains how the brain gets stuck in downward spirals and how we can play a role in turning them upside down. Advisory: This episode contains a brief story about suicide. If you are not in a position to l...