We recorded this episode in Ray's cellar having just recorded the ninth episode. We provide a bit of background which explains who we are, how we met and what we're interested in. Our plan is to have this sort of conversation every 10th episode or so.

We cover the ideas that:

successful lives are lived with a foot in each the known and the unknownif you want different results, you have to do something different the stories of others are what helps us focusbeliefs have no value without actionthe bigger the comfort zone, the bettergrowing one's comfort zone is a necessarily uncomfortable process   the best journeys are a shared experience 

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