Originally this conversation was meant to be released as episode 201 and was recorded well in advance BUT host Nik Wood's life threatening injury in August 2019 had us record a new episode 201 with Derek as it felt right to acknowledge that event and that landmark appropriately. 

There's so much gold in this episode and so we are excited to be releasing it now.

Derek is an astounding individual who constantly pushes to his edge with grace and good humour. 

The many and varied chapters in his life have prepared him for adventure and accomplishment in every area of his life!