Dougie Poynter is a musician, songwriter, designer, author and conservationist. Dougie has been obsessed with natural history and dinosaurs from the age of three when he visited the Natural History Museum with his mum.

In this episode, Dougie talks ants and plastic with journalist Lucy Siegle.

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