Kodsnack 484 - Underneath your library, with Chris Ferdinandi

Fredrik chats with Chris Ferdinandi about vanilla Javascript, the pros and cons of libraries, the state of web components, and a lot more.

Chris tells us about how and why he became the vanilla Javascript guy, and why he dislikes vanilla-js.com. We talk about why we as web developers pick up so many libraries, and why we often seem to use really large tools on really small problems. We wonder if different types of developers should think in different ways about libraries. Chris also talks about how different groups attending his courses approach the subject of vanilla Javascript in different ways, and of course a bit about where he hopes and thinks web development might be heading in the next few years.

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Chris Ferdinandi
Vanilla Javascript
Vanilla JS podcast - Chris' podcast
Chris' newsletter
gomakethings.com
Jquery
vanilla-js.com - a joke which may not have stood the test of time
Library or framework?
ES 5
Post from Dave Rupert about ripping Jquery out of Wordpress
Chris' e-books
vanillajsguides.com
Chris' workshops
DOM diffing
Dan Abramov
Redux
Dan Abramov’s course on Redux
Vue
Svelte
Astro
The stage 3 API for passing in a string of HTML and sanitizing it
JSX
Details and summary elements
ARIA
Web components
Chris' course on web components
Shadow DOM
Constructable stylesheets

Titles

I help people learn vanilla Javascript
Largely because of Jquery
The vanilla JS guy
The phrase “at scale” gets thrown in there
Trying to hang a painting on your wall with a sledgehammer
Perfect for a very narrow and specific set of use cases
Just throwing one more of them in
The pain of their own tech choices
Teaching engineers how to find their next job
I didn’t realize you could do so much without a library
Underneath your library
Without punishing the user
Mostly HTML and a little bit of Javascript
Waiting for the build to compile
You never have to feel bored