Being an enthusiastic fan of boxing means becoming emotionallly involved, and therefore vulnerable in some ways. When the fighters and figures we love pass on, it stings.

Heavyweight title challenger Bert Cooper was famous for his connection to Joe Frazier, and his tendency to emulate Joe's style and tenacity. Judge and official Harold Lederman was an HBO staple for decades, his unintentionally hilarious catchphrases endearing him to even the most cynical fans.

On this episode of Knuckles and Gloves Boxing Radio, boxing historian Patrick Connor is joined by CompuBox operator and fellow history-phile Aris Pina in remembering these two men and the paths they walked.

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