Katie and Raquel sit down with a mother and daughter, Debbie and Bailie Slevin, to discuss Debbie’s new book, UnPregnant Pause: Where Are the Babies? We talk about bad marriages, grandpugs, Sheryl Sandberg, choice moms, passing on dating, unfair biology, asshole doctors, and validating— and celebrating— new generations’ choices.


(music: www.bensound.com)