This episode sees Patricia, Louise, and Lloyd joined by the brilliant Ryan Bell, who transitioned from Seventh Day Adventist pastor to atheist and Founder of Life After God during last few years. They discuss the process of finding one's way in the world after making a break from the religion that defined them, and they compare and contrast some central JW and SDA beliefs, practices, and common origins.
 
Afterwards, the hosts delve into some phenomenal listener voicemails. Finally, Lloyd provides an update on his endeavors with the UK Charity Commission, and Louise gives details on a new public pressure group starting in Canada.