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Iron Butterfly

63 episodes - English - Latest episode: 14 days ago - ★★★★★ - 50 ratings

The first podcast by and for women in the US Intelligence Community, The Iron Butterfly Podcast brings you real stories from women in intelligence.


Eighty years ago, Eloise Page joined the Office of Strategic Services, trailblazing a path for what ultimately became the United States Intelligence Community. She rose the ranks from secretary to case officer, defying the norms of her time, and eventually became the first female Chief of Station at CIA. Eloise was known among her colleagues to be a fierce fighter with a core of steel, and she earned the code name "Iron Butterfly."


Our podcast continues her legacy, inviting the unsung heroines of the US intelligence community to share their stories with aspiring leaders like you.Women in the intelligence community are special because they've dedicated their lives to studying the whole world. And through conversations with hundreds of women in intelligence over the past few years, we've come to understand that the world is at an inflection point. Women hold a more central role in society than ever before, and at Iron Butterfly Media, we are committed to amplifying authentic voices that inspire women to create, wherever they are.


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Episodes

Linda Weissgold: Reality check

April 02, 2024 12:30 - 53 minutes - 73.5 MB

On this episode we are joined by Linda Weissgold, former Deputy Director of Analysis at CIA. Our most requested guest to date, tune in to hear her realistic and candid descriptions of her time in the Intelligence Community. From briefing George W. Bush to her time as an analyst covering the Middle East, there are so many moments you won't want to miss. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Uyen Dinh: Diamond Eye

March 19, 2024 13:00 - 50 minutes - 69 MB

On this episode we are joined by Uyen Dinh. Uyen is currently the VP for Government Relations and Strategy at Black Sky and served several years as a Hill Staffer in roles at the House Armed Services Committee and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Uyen describes herself as energetic, fun, and positive; we have no doubt you'll agree. This episode as it is full of laughs and great stories, be sure to tune in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kristi Scott: Red October

March 05, 2024 14:00 - 1 hour - 93.3 MB

Welcome to the Season 6 premiere of the Iron Butterfly Podcast. Megan and Cadie sit down with Kristi Scott, a lawyer with over two decades of experience in the intelligence community and national security, specializing in privacy and civil liberties law. This episode is full of laughs, and conversations ranging from reality TV to the whether or not the intelligence community is listening in to your calls. An episode you don't want to miss! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for mo...

Season 6 Teaser

February 20, 2024 14:00 - 24 minutes - 33.5 MB

The Iron Butterfly Podcast is back and fiercer than ever! Join Megan and Cadie as they share exciting updates about the team, plans for 2024, and the new Iron Butterfly Studio. Season 6 will premiere on March 3, 2024. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Arlene Gaylord: Corazón

December 19, 2023 14:00 - 51 minutes - 23.5 MB

On our Season Finale we are joined by the extraordinary Arlene Gaylord. Arlene has spent 32+ years at the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and is the Executive Assistant Director (EAD) of the Information and Technology Branch (ITB).   She discusses a range of topics from creating effective and lasting change by using your seat at the table to similarities between the FBI and Broadway. It is no wonder that Arlene has smashed glass ceilings but even more encouraging to know that she will...

Vinita Fordham: Ms. Marvel

December 05, 2023 14:00 - 36 minutes - 16.8 MB

Episode Summary: This week we are joined by Vinita Fordham, a technology leader working at the cutting edge.  Vinita is Chief Innovation Officer for Bridge Core, LLC and previously served as an AI specialist leader at Deloitte focused on delivering and advocating for mission ready AI strategies and solutions.  She also served as a senior executive in the United States Intelligence Community.  Tune in to hear how her older brother's love for engineering encouraged and inspired her career pat...

Tasha Jones: Ghost Phoenix

November 21, 2023 17:00 - 41 minutes - 19.1 MB

This episode we are joined by the amazing Tasha Jones, a U.S. Navy Veteran and Founder of Twenty39, a purpose built solutions and services partner leveraging over twenty five years’ experience in the U.S. government market space.  Tasha discusses how she transitioned from government into the business world and is an ardent supporter and champion of women in entrepreneurship and innovation.  A force to be reckoned with, we are so inspired by her tenacity and passion for enacting change and em...

Jen Sovada: Interstellar

November 07, 2023 14:23 - 33 minutes - 15.3 MB

On this episode we are joined by Colonel (Ret.) Jen Sovada.  Jen is the President of SandboxAQ’s Global Public Sector and previously served in the Air Force dedicating 25 years to various positions in operational test, systems interoperability, and requirements definition.  Listen in to hear her speak to the importance of building community and lifting up those around you.  And how her Grandmother, whose love of space, later influenced her drive and passion for public service and being a tra...

Anjuma Goswami Karkera | Fierce Something-or-Another

October 24, 2023 13:10 - 53 minutes - 24.6 MB

On this episode we are joined by the fierce Anjuma Goswami Karkera.  Anjuma is the CEO of a non-profit professional services organization and previously excelled in roles at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).  Tune in to hear her discuss how being bold and authentic paved the way for her journey into the Intelligence Community.  She shares insight into the power of public service and how institutions can be instruments of positive cha...

Special Live Episode | Firefly, Mija, and Simple Patriot

October 10, 2023 14:45 - 54 minutes - 74.7 MB

In this special episode, hosted by Texas A&M University's The Bush School of Government & Public Service, Megan Jaffer and Cadie Hopkins conduct a live panel discussion with butterflies; Laura Thomas, Stephanie La Rue, and the Honorable Sue Gordon. The panel takes an independent look at women in the intelligence community and where they were on historic occasions, what it's like serving across administrations and political parties, and what they feel is the greatest threat to our national se...

Sarah Mineiro: Plasma Unicorn

September 26, 2023 13:05 - 36 minutes - 16.6 MB

On this episode, we are joined by Sarah Mineiro, a total bad-ass self-proclaimed space nerd and one of the funniest ladies we know. Sarah is the founder and CEO of Tanagra Enterprises, a defense, intelligence, space, science and technology consulting firm based in the DC area. Sarah has worked within the national security and defense sector for over 20 years. Over her career, Sarah has worked in private industry, and across both the Executive and Legislative branches of government. Joi...

Teresa Shea: Jinx Johnson

September 12, 2023 13:00 - 37 minutes - 17 MB

On our season 5 premiere, we are joined by the incredible Teresa Shea. Teresa has served more than 35 years in intelligence and defense within the public and private sector. She served as Executive Vice President of Technology and director of Cyber-Reboot at In-Q-Tel. She joined In-Q-Tel after a distinguished thirty-two-year career with the National Security Agency (NSA, where she held several key leadership assignments during her career culminating as the director of Signals Intelligen...

Season 5 Teaser

August 30, 2023 21:00 - 8 minutes - 3.77 MB

The Iron Butterfly Podcast team is back to share exciting updates and what to expect in the upcoming season premiering September 12th! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Iron Butterfly | Special Episode – Documentary Announcement

June 16, 2023 15:57 - 23 minutes - 10.7 MB

On this special episode, the Iron Butterfly team returns to announce our new project, the first feature film documentary about women in the intelligence community. The team discusses how we got here, why this project matters, and when the podcast will return from hiatus. Tune in for some exciting updates! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Season Finale: The Iron Butterfly Podcast Team (Beating Falcon, Wise Wisteria, Fierce Fire, & Bulldog)

July 19, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 35.7 MB

We close Season 4 with the Iron Butterfly team: Megan Jaffer, Cadie Naquin Hopkins, Amanda Young, and Liz Herndon.  We reflect on the themes of the past 4 seasons, unique moments, funniest memories, and other behind-the-scenes insights.  We also share a special message to our listeners about the future of the Iron Butterfly Podcast.  We hope you enjoy this special season finale! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nazaret Berhane: Khaleesi

July 05, 2022 18:27 - 38 minutes - 17.7 MB

On this episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are proud to welcome Nazaret Berhane to the show. Nazaret is a program manager on the IC Centers for Academic Excellence team within the IC Human Capital Office at ODNI. She brings years of experience from her time with FBI’s Foreign Language Program in addition to her service as the Directorate of Intelligence Diversity and Inclusion coordinator. She currently serves as the Women’s Intelligence Network Vice Chair.    Nazaret is passionate ...

Stephanie LaRue: Mija

June 21, 2022 13:03 - 44 minutes - 20.6 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly, we are thrilled to welcome Stephanie La Rue, Esq. to the podcast. Stephanie is the chief of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) where she brings her passion for DEI strategy to the IC. Stephanie also represents the IC in several White House initiatives that pursue educational equity, excellence, and economic opportunity in underrepresented communities. She also founded the Latino In...

Kristin Wood: The Conductor

June 07, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 30.5 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are thrilled to share the incredible story of Kristin Wood. Kristin brings with her 20 years of career experience from CIA, with service in the analysis, operations, and digital innovation directorates as she pursued transforming and building new capabilities within the agency. She was a President’s Daily Brief briefer for Vice President Cheney and his National Security Advisor, in addition to building and leading CIA’s Advanced Analys...

Melissa Smislova: Bumblebee

May 24, 2022 09:00 - 34 minutes - 15.7 MB

On this week's episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are proud to welcome Melissa Smislova, the Senior Official Performing the Duties of Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis at the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A). Melissa brings decades of intelligence expertise with her, known for her work on the Soviet Union and North Korea.  Prior to her service at DHS, she worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), earning several awa...

Janaki Kates: Spy Mom

May 11, 2022 18:05 - 45 minutes - 20.8 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are thrilled to welcome our friend, Janaki Kates. Janaki is a national security consultant with nearly two decades of government experience and is passionate about expanding missions and growing diverse workforces. She began her career at the CIA as an analyst focusing on foreign space programs. She then went on to focus on foreign weapon systems, counterproliferation, and counterintelligence. Janaki has served at the Office of the Dir...

Lauren Bean Buitta: Eagle Ears

April 26, 2022 20:55 - 32 minutes - 14.9 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we are proud to welcome Lauren Bean Buitta, founder and CEO of Girl Security, a nonpartisan, non-profit building equitable pathways in national security for girls, women, and gender minorities. Lauren has worked for a think tank and founded a consulting firm prior to Girl Security, and is associated with a number of prestigious councils and committees. Lauren is a mom to two amazing humans and was named one of the “50 Women Making the World a Better P...

Special Episode: Virginia Hall (The Intrepidus Eagle)

March 18, 2022 14:49 - 39 minutes - 17.8 MB

On this special episode, we open Season 4 featuring Lorna and Brad Catling, family members of the legendary Virginia Hall. Virginia worked with the United Kingdom’s Clandestine Special Operations Executive (SOE) and American Office of Strategic Services (OSS), aiding the French Resistance during WWII. She went on to work with the CIA where she ultimately retired from the clandestine services. Virginia was the most highly decorated female civilian in WWII and paved the way for women in the In...

Suzanne Heckenberg: Y Flyer

December 14, 2021 21:53 - 26 minutes - 12.2 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we are proud to welcome Suzanne Heckenberg for our Season 3 finale!  Suzanne is the President of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA), as well as the Intelligence and National Security Foundation. She oversees a host of INSA's strategies ranging from finance, to events, to corporate partnerships. She previously served as the organizations first Chief Operating officer, working to expand INSA from the inside and promote diversity and...

La’Naia Jones: Bikram

December 07, 2021 15:00 - 35 minutes - 16.5 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are proud to welcome La’Naia Jones, Deputy Chief Information Officer at the National Security Agency. She serves with previous experience as the Acting Chief Information Officer of the Intelligence Community, the Chief of Transformation and Transition in partnership with the Department of Defense, in addition to her background in IT leadership.  La’Naia joins us and proudly shares her winding path into the IC and how following her pas...

Molly Solsbury: Shadow Spider

November 23, 2021 15:29 - 31 minutes - 14.4 MB

On this week's episode of the Iron Butterfly, we are joined by Colonel Molly Solsbury, Chief Data Officer for Army intelligence within the 18th Airborne Corps. Molly has over two decades of service in active duty roles, ranging from intelligence and policy, to research and development. She shares her story with us from her experiences at the National Security Council and her Fellowship at MIT's Lincoln Laboratory, with many in between.   Molly has spent time in a variety of special operatio...

Jackie Barbieri: Pearl of Delphi

November 16, 2021 19:05 - 43 minutes - 20 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly podcast, we're joined by Jackie Barbieri, the Founder & CEO of Whitespace, a spatial data analytics company. With a history of supporting the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Intelligence Community as an intelligence analyst. Jackie shares her winding path with us through her academic endeavors at Georgetown University, her desire to serve her country in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and with her unique lin...

Quiet Bear, Ruski Frog, Sidewinder, and Titanium Shark

November 09, 2021 16:06 - 1 hour - 31.8 MB

In this very special edition of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we sat down with three incredible individuals whose stories are shaped by the loss of their parents in their service to the United States. We spoke with Marie Mickley, an adventure-loving, adrenaline-junkie turned law student at the University of Wisconsin, Jacob Centeno, a professional storyteller, with the title of founder and CEO of Poor Bear Stories, a video production company in Orlando, FL, and Alison Spann, another profession...

Rachel Grunspan: Time Traveler

November 02, 2021 14:00 - 28 minutes - 13 MB

Rachel Grunspan joins us this week on the Iron Butterfly podcast, bringing her over 20 years experience at the CIA. She has impacted the Agency as a cyber-threat analyst, a game and simulation designer, an executive manager, and most recently, as Dean for CIA's Digital University. She believes in increasing the creative capacity of individuals and organizations to best close intelligence and national security gaps.   Join us for an exciting episode of the Iron Butterfly as we delve into Rac...

Jacqueline Tame: Game Breaker

October 26, 2021 14:01 - 56 minutes - 25.6 MB

Jacqueline Tame, former Acting Deputy Director and inaugural Chief Performance Officer for the Department of Defense's Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, joins Iron Butterfly to discuss her winding path into the United States Intelligence Community. Jacqueline bravely shares both her professional and personal hurdles, how she overcame them, and why they shaped her into the woman and professional she is today. In an awe-inspiring conversation, Jacqueline discusses experiences with mentors...

Silver Cloud, Jericho, and Water Dragon

May 25, 2021 14:41 - 1 hour - 32.4 MB

Join us as we conclude our second season of the Iron Butterfly podcast with a very special episode. This week, we are joined by three incredible mentees from Girl Security, a non-profit organization working to forge equity in national security by preparing girls and gender minorities to advance confidently into national security’s many pathways. In this episode, three high school and college students were handed the reins as they sat down with their IC “sheroes,” the Honorable Suzanne Spauldi...

Season Two Finale Teaser

May 18, 2021 19:08 - 35 seconds - 287 KB

This season of the Iron Butterfly is coming to a close but not before a final special episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Laura Nelson: Crypto Raven

May 11, 2021 13:00 - 40 minutes - 18.5 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we are joined by Laura Nelson, CEO of the National Cryptologic Foundation. Laura served in the IC for 37 years and has held roles with NSA and CIA. She has supported multiple initiatives including the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) and was the first woman to be a senior leader in cryptanalysis at NSA. Laura shares what she learned as a leader of technical teams, how she found her voice in a male-dominated area, and the challenges of finding me...

Erringer Helbling: Ruby

May 04, 2021 13:00 - 31 minutes - 14.5 MB

Erringer Helbling, Director of Operations at HawkEye 360, joins us this week on the Iron Butterfly. Listen in as Errin discusses her Army service and explains the vital role of geospatial engineers to the intelligence community. In this episode, Errin shares her experiences providing humanitarian assistance through geospatial data, serving troops in combat zones, and meeting an unlikely character during her time as a Military Social Aide at the White House. She explains how to stay true to yo...

Chitra Sivanandam: Fermented Chimera

April 27, 2021 13:00 - 33 minutes - 15.1 MB

Tune in this week as we talk with Chitra Sivanandam, Chief Technology Officer at Reinventing Geospatial Inc (RGI) and recipient of the 2019 AI Industry Executive of the Year award. Chitra discusses what she’s learned over the last 25 years working as an imaging scientist with the IC and DoD and the importance of being comfortable with wacky and unusual ideas. She shares why bringing our whole authentic selves to the table is key to variety and diversity. Chitra emphasizes why we should give o...

J'Tia Hart: Sable Sage

April 20, 2021 17:29 - 31 minutes - 14.4 MB

Join us this week as we sit down with Dr. J’Tia Hart, PhD. J’Tia holds a degree in nuclear engineering and works in nonproliferation at the Argonne National Laboratory with the Department of Energy. Tune in as J’Tia talks about beginning college at the age of 15 and how fainting on a job helped lead her to a career in engineering. She discusses the importance of leaning into what you’re good at and remembering that you belong exactly where you are. J’Tia shares the three prongs of advice she ...

April Falcon Doss: Grace Note

April 13, 2021 13:00 - 34 minutes - 15.9 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly, we sit down with April Falcon Doss, the Executive Director of the Institute for Technology Law and Policy at Georgetown University. April first joined the IC after watching the events of 9/11 unfold on TV from her hospital bed after giving birth. She spent over a decade at the NSA where she served in many roles, to include helping stand up the Directorate of National Intelligence and as Associate General Counsel for Intelligence Law. After leaving...

Laura Thomas: Firefly

April 06, 2021 13:00 - 38 minutes - 17.5 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast we are joined by Laura Thomas, a former case officer at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). During her time at the agency, Laura served as Chief of Base and led several sensitive programs. In this episode, Laura shares her view of what makes a good case officer, how a wine tasting with an asset helped to build trust with the US government, and her experience living “a double life inside a double life.” Tune in to learn more about the role of quantum...

Laura Thomas - Firefly

April 06, 2021 13:00 - 38 minutes - 17.5 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly Podcast we are joined by Laura Thomas, a former case officer at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). During her time at the agency, Laura served as Chief of Base and led several sensitive programs. In this episode, Laura shares her view of what makes a good case officer, how a wine tasting with an asset helped to build trust with the US government, and her experience living “a double life inside a double life.” Tune in to learn more about the role of quantum...

Special Episode: The Leprechaun, The Jackal, and Envoy

March 30, 2021 15:33 - 1 hour - 29.9 MB

Join us this week for a special episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, where we host a panel of three amazing men in the IC. Our first panelist, Chairman Mike Rogers, was a former Army Officer and FBI agent, and served as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). We also welcome LTG Vince Stewart, a Marine veteran and career intel officer who served as the Director of Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Lastly, we are joined by Nick Kolman-Mandle, a former brief...

Janna Scott-Tarman: The Trampoline

March 23, 2021 13:00 - 38 minutes - 17.8 MB

Tune in this week for a powerful new episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast. Join us as we sit down with Janna Scott-Tarman, Senior Intelligence Oversight Officer in the Defense Intelligence Agency's Office of Counterintelligence. Find out why Janna considers herself an “accidental intelligence officer” and how her experience on September 11, 2001 shaped her career trajectory. Janna discusses everything from embarrassing memories as an intelligence briefer to the painful realities of leading ...

Joan Dempsey: Steely Eyed Blonde

March 16, 2021 15:56 - 28 minutes - 12.9 MB

"I will gladly hold your capes for you,” Joan Dempsey tells our listeners on this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast. Joan served in the federal government for 25 years in a variety of roles with the Office of Naval Intelligence, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and the Central Intelligence Agency. On this episode, Joan discusses being the only woman in the room, finding moments to create change, and the importance of remembering that life is ...

Jeny Mills: Blue Hand

March 09, 2021 16:22 - 48 minutes - 22.2 MB

Listen in to this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly Podcast as we sit down with Jeny Mills, an Africa Analyst at INR who grew up in the Comoros Islands. On this episode, Jeny shares her journey from human rights activist to Presidential Management Fellow at the State Department, and discusses trailblazing new paths for women, decision-making in crisis situations, and serving abroad in a danger zone. Tune in to hear Jeny debunk myths surrounding mental health in the IC, the importance of ca...

Dr. Stacey Dixon: Serene

March 02, 2021 13:51 - 32 minutes - 14.8 MB

This week on the Iron Butterfly, we sat down with Dr. Stacey Dixon, Deputy Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA). In this episode, Stacey takes us along her path from academia to the intelligence community, which included stints on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) staff and as the Director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA). She shares how her STEM background helped her land multiple roles throughout her career, ...

Mary Legere: Dragon Six

February 23, 2021 21:34 - 59 minutes - 27 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly podcast, we are joined by Lieutenant General (Ret.) Mary Legere. Mary spent 34 years in the Army, culminating as the Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, or G2. She also served as the Commander of the Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) and the Senior Military Intelligence Officer in Iraq and the Republic of Korea. Mary currently works as a Managing Director at Accenture Federal Services. Tune in as Mary reflects on commanding 5...

Lynn Dugle: Boundless

February 16, 2021 14:27 - 26 minutes - 11.9 MB

On this week’s episode of the Iron Butterfly, we are joined by Lynn Dugle. Lynn has more than 30 years of experience in defense, intelligence, and telecommunications, and most recently served as Engility’s Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board. Prior to Engility, she worked as the President of Raytheon’s Intelligence, Information, and Services business. Lynn also serves on several boards, including the B2B Project, which actively works to place more women in the Boardroom. This we...

Leslie Ireland: Wonder Woman

February 09, 2021 18:18 - 49 minutes - 22.8 MB

In our first episode of season two, Iron Butterfly is joined by Leslie Ireland. Leslie is the former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Intelligence and Analysis and the National Intelligence Manager for Threat Finance. Leading up to that assignment, she worked at CIA for 25 years, serving as PDB Briefer for President Obama and as the Intelligence Community’s Mission Manager for Iran. Tune in as Leslie talks about the importance of being perseverant and polite, how her failures brought h...

Season Two Teaser

February 03, 2021 00:13 - 1 minute - 493 KB

Iron Butterfly Season Two Coming Soon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Yvette Hopkins: Amarone 6

December 15, 2020 21:49 - 54 minutes - 24.8 MB

In our final episode of Iron Butterfly's inaugural season, we are joined by Yvette Hopkins, current Executive Vice President at the Shetland Space Centre. In this conversation, Yvette shares her incredible professional journey as a US Army Officer for nearly 30 years, which culminated as the Director of Intelligence for the US Army Special Operations Command in Africa (SOCAFRICA). Her other roles included many of our community's "firsts," and Yvette discusses her experiences serving in German...

Alice Fisher: Radar

December 08, 2020 14:54 - 25 minutes - 11.8 MB

On this week's episode of the Iron Butterfly Podcast, we had the opportunity to talk with Alice Fisher. Alice is an NSI Advisory Board member and lawyer who had been working at the Department of Justice (DOJ) for six weeks when the tragedies of 9/11/2001 took place. She spent her early years at DOJ prosecuting terrorism cases, and later helped stand up the National Security Division. She was the second woman to serve as Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Criminal Division of the Depa...

Dawn Meyerriecks: Heritage Oak

December 01, 2020 14:05 - 33 minutes - 15.2 MB

Join us this week as we sit down with Dawn Meyerriecks, Deputy Director for Science and Technology (DS&T) at the Central Intelligence Agency. Dawn discusses her experience as a late-career hire, the importance of reverse-mentoring, and why she wants her team to fail fast, learn, and move on. She shares her leadership style, including her work to create an environment where people feel encouraged to take risks and push the boundaries of the possible. Tune in to learn more about the importance...