On this episode of The investing for Freedom Podcast, Mike is joined by returning guest, Jamie Gruber. Mike and Jamie discuss a series of topics but focus on why people are scared to leave their W2 jobs. Mike shares some information about Emerge and Descend, a program created by Jamie to help those prepare and get ready to qualify for GoBundance. Mike and Jamie also share their experience of leaving their W2 jobs and share their advice to anyone who is thinking of doing the same.