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I’ve been listening to Sara’s music since 2004 and she’s been a HUGE influence on my own songwriting. She offers incredible insights about God and humanity in a way that’s disarming, beautiful and poignant. This is one of those episodes I want to listen to over and over again.     www.saragroves.com   www.jjheller.com/podcast

One of our most popular episodes! 

I’ve been listening to Sara’s music since 2004 and she’s been a HUGE influence on my own songwriting. She offers incredible insights about God and humanity in a way that’s disarming, beautiful and poignant. This is one of those episodes I want to listen to over and over again.     www.saragroves.com   www.jjheller.com/podcast