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In the Shadow of the Evening Trees

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Episode 44: Celebrating 29 Years

March 14, 2024 00:32 - 35 minutes - 48.6 MB

On this week’s show: So, we hope you enjoy the show, and please feel free to follow us on Instagram (@jenn_and_dave). You can also follow us on the site formerly known as Twitter, where our joint account is @JennandDave1 and the podcast account is @itsotetPodcast. Until next time!  The post Episode 44: Celebrating 29 Years appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 43: Virtual Reality

March 06, 2024 00:16 - 31 minutes - 42.6 MB

On this week’s show: So, we hope you enjoy the show, and please feel free to follow us on Instagram (@jenn_and_dave). You can also follow us on the site formerly known as Twitter, where our joint account is @JennandDave1 and the podcast account is @itsotetPodcast. Until next time! The post Episode 43: Virtual Reality appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 42: Channeling Difficult Emotions

February 25, 2024 20:33 - 34 minutes - 47.5 MB

Since we rebooted our podcast, we begin this week’s show discussing topics we plan to cover going forward, including familiar themes such as LGBTQIA+ rights, family, and music, and new(ish) themes like cooking and physical and mental health. From there, we discuss the tragic death of indigenous nonbinary teenager Nex Benedict after a brutal attack … Continue reading "Episode 42: Channeling Difficult Emotions" The post Episode 42: Channeling Difficult Emotions appeared first on In the Shad...

Episode 41: The Reboot!

February 20, 2024 01:49 - 33 minutes - 45.3 MB

Yes, it’s been awhile since we posted our last episode on October 1, 2023. We’ve had a lot going on since then (mostly, the holidays) and we’ve given a lot of thought to whether we should continue the podcast, due in part to some of the flak we get online. But, in the end, we … Continue reading "Episode 41: The Reboot!" The post Episode 41: The Reboot! appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 40: New Cars and New Jobs … Part Two

October 01, 2023 20:00 - 32 minutes - 44.7 MB

Hey, we made it to forty episodes! (In, like, a year and a half. But still.) Anyway, in this week’s episode: when you podcast it, it comes true. Last episode we talked about getting a new car and Jennifer getting a new job. This week, both of those things happened. We also talk about public … Continue reading "Episode 40: New Cars and New Jobs … Part Two" The post Episode 40: New Cars and New Jobs … Part Two appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 39: New Cars and New Jobs

September 20, 2023 01:45 - 32 minutes - 44.6 MB

In this week’s episode: An update on the firing of Kris Martin, a local teacher whom the Homer Glen, Illinois, school board let go for … suspicious reasons (you can sign a Change.org petition here).  Also: Weaponizing mental health. Car talk. Driving stick shift. Working remotely vs. working in the office. Remembering 9/11 and what … Continue reading "Episode 39: New Cars and New Jobs" The post Episode 39: New Cars and New Jobs appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 38: Happy Labor Day!

September 04, 2023 23:31 - 33 minutes - 46.1 MB

On this Week’s episode: a rambling conversation about everything from the holiday weekend to running races and training for marathons to … Martha Stewart?  More importantly, we discuss the Texas Supreme Court’s ill-advised decision that lets the state’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors take effect despite the overwhelming weight of scientific and medical evidence … Continue reading "Episode 38: Happy Labor Day!" The post Episode 38: Happy Labor Day! appeared first on In the Shadow ...

Episode 37: What’s the Matter with Homer Glen?

August 27, 2023 20:13 - 36 minutes - 50 MB

On this Week’s episode we talk about guitar playing, the Cubs’ playoff chances, and what the heck is going on in south suburban Home Glen, Illinois, where the local school board apparently fired a teacher for exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech and freedom of religion. We discussed this last episode but naïvely … Continue reading "Episode 37: What’s the Matter with Homer Glen?" The post Episode 37: What’s the Matter with Homer Glen? appeared first on In the Shadow of th...

Episode 36: A Hundred Degrees in the Shade

August 23, 2023 02:07 - 38 minutes - 53.1 MB

On this Week’s Episode: A heat wave in the midwest. Climate change is real. Growing up without air conditioning. Bomb threats at libraries. Anti-queer hate crimes. And local outrage addicts pick up the pitchforks and go after an art teacher for … being queer? Exercising their First Amendment rights? Criticizing the police? Being a “satanist”? … Continue reading "Episode 36: A Hundred Degrees in the Shade" The post Episode 36: A Hundred Degrees in the Shade appeared first on In the Shadow ...

Episode 35: A Quieter Podcast … Sort Of

August 08, 2023 01:59 - 33 minutes - 45.3 MB

On this Week’s Episode: Haircuts. Heated conversations. Why people feel like they don’t have a platform when there are more platforms than ever. The Clash and the ethos of punk. Bruce in Ireland (again!) and how Little Steven trolled the haters. A chance meeting between Joe Strummer and Bob Weir. RIP and Pee Wee Herman … Continue reading "Episode 35: A Quieter Podcast … Sort Of" The post Episode 35: A Quieter Podcast … Sort Of appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 34: Keeping Up With the News

August 01, 2023 00:55 - 41 minutes - 57.1 MB

On this Week’s Episode: Trying to keep on top of the news without drowning in a sea of misinformation. Teaching history. The media’s obsession with “cancel culture” and their misunderstanding of censorship. The complexity of free speech in the classroom. The summer is flying by. Our youngest’s senior year in college. Courts learned some good … Continue reading "Episode 34: Keeping Up With the News" The post Episode 34: Keeping Up With the News appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evenin...

Episode 33: Mind Your Business

July 21, 2023 20:15 - 35 minutes - 48.4 MB

On this week’s show: Our pool is finally open after months of delay. We’re still trying to get the hang of Threads. Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick support the ACLU Drag Defense Fund. Drag queens have First Amendment rights, too. A lot of you have lost your minds. Jennifer says mind your business. “Moms” for … Continue reading "Episode 33: Mind Your Business" The post Episode 33: Mind Your Business appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 32: Adventures in Social Media

July 14, 2023 01:44 - 36 minutes - 49.8 MB

With the launch of Meta’s new social networking platform, Threads, we dedicate this week’s episode to the good, the bad, and the ugly of social media. As Twitter circulates slowly down the drain (taking TweetDeck with it, apparently), we discuss the toxicity of that platform and whether Threads is a viable alternative. We also talk … Continue reading "Episode 32: Adventures in Social Media" The post Episode 32: Adventures in Social Media appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 31: Transitioning While Famous, and the Supreme Court Strikes Out

July 07, 2023 01:23 - 40 minutes - 55.8 MB

On this week’s episode, after reminiscing about being in New York City last year for the 4th of July and giving a shoutout to Garland and Claire Jeffreys for commenting and sharing last week’s podcast, we get down to business. First, we talk about Elliot Page’s book Page Boy: A Memoir, which Jennifer highly recommends. … Continue reading "Episode 31: Transitioning While Famous, and the Supreme Court Strikes Out" The post Episode 31: Transitioning While Famous, and the Supreme Court Strike...

Episode 24: Kids Know Who They Are

April 28, 2023 01:56 - 30 minutes - 41.7 MB

This week, we discuss a recent episode of 60 Minutes Australia on parents who refuse to assign their newborn babies a gender at birth. Though the show suggests that the parents, who refer to their kids as “theybies,” let the kids “decide their gender,” we note that that’s not really true. Rather, the kids are … Continue reading "Episode 24: Kids Know Who They Are" The post Episode 24: Kids Know Who They Are appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 23: On the Road Again

April 22, 2023 18:50 - 31 minutes - 43.8 MB

On this week’s episode: cats don’t worry about other people’s chosen names and pronouns, so you shouldn’t either. We also revisit an old classic: the Boy Scouts of America, an organization notorious for its homophobia in the 1980s and ’90s, recently settled decades of child sex abuse claims for a cool $2.5 billion, and yet … Continue reading "Episode 23: On the Road Again" The post Episode 23: On the Road Again appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 22: Let Them Play

April 14, 2023 01:49 - 33 minutes - 45.3 MB

How do we go from The Masters to the rights of trans athletes in the span of half an hour? Well, it wasn’t easy but we did. The conversation winds from birdies and eagles and albatrosses to high school gym class, with a few odd detours (European team handball?) along the way, until we settle … Continue reading "Episode 22: Let Them Play" The post Episode 22: Let Them Play appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 21: Reflecting on Trans Day of Visibility

April 07, 2023 02:16 - 32 minutes - 44.8 MB

Since we recorded our last episode, Transgender Day of Visibility happened (it was March 31) and we would be remiss if we didn’t share our thoughts. According to GLAAD, only about 30 percent of Americans personally know someone who’s trans. At the same time, legislators around the country introduced more than 400 bills attacking LGBTQIA … Continue reading "Episode 21: Reflecting on Trans Day of Visibility" The post Episode 21: Reflecting on Trans Day of Visibility appeared first on In the...

Episode 20: What Level of Dante’s Inferno Is This?

March 31, 2023 02:44 - 32 minutes - 44.8 MB

Well, we started out on a light note, talking about watching a certain game show only old people watch and setting up our cat “daycare” so we can work from home in relative peace … And then we went on at some length about podcasting and making videos for our Instagram page and our YouTube … Continue reading "Episode 20: What Level of Dante’s Inferno Is This?" The post Episode 20: What Level of Dante’s Inferno Is This? appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 19: March Madness

March 24, 2023 02:16 - 34 minutes - 47.7 MB

On this week’s episode, we give a long over due (LONG OVERDUE) shout-out to our friend and podcasting mentor, Tim Corrimal of The Tim Corrimal Show, whom we’ve known for years and who helped us considerably when we got started. Tim gave us great advice about podcasting … though we can’t say we’ve always followed … Continue reading "Episode 19: March Madness" The post Episode 19: March Madness appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 18: “A Tale Told by an Idiot”

March 16, 2023 17:49 - 35 minutes - 49.2 MB

We’re not comparing ourselves to William Faulkner, who borrowed a phrase from Macbeth for the title of one of his most famous novels — life, he says, is “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing” — but we’ve dealt with our share of numbskulls in recent weeks. Not the … Continue reading "Episode 18: “A Tale Told by an Idiot”" The post Episode 18: “A Tale Told by an Idiot” appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 17: Being Part of the Conversation

March 09, 2023 22:02 - 32 minutes - 44.4 MB

We’re back after a long hiatus because, as we explain in this week’s episode, there is a conversation going on in the world, whether we like it or not, and good people have to be part of it. It’s been a long time, and, frankly, after recording our last episode, we thought we might never … Continue reading "Episode 17: Being Part of the Conversation" The post Episode 17: Being Part of the Conversation appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 16: Another School Shooting; Keeping the T in LGBTQ+

June 10, 2022 17:44 - 32 minutes - 45.2 MB

In this week’s episode, we share our thoughts on the latest school shooting, this time in Uvalde, Texas. As parents, we have lived through this nightmare over and over again since the Columbine murders in 1999. Perhaps it’s the cumulative weight of these mass killings, or the fact that the Uvalde murders occurred so soon … Continue reading "Episode 16: Another School Shooting; Keeping the T in LGBTQ+" The post Episode 16: Another School Shooting; Keeping the T in LGBTQ+ appeared first on ...

Episode 15: Anger Can Be Power

May 19, 2022 22:39 - 30 minutes - 41.5 MB

In the punk rock manifesto “Clampdown” from the Clash’s London Calling LP, Joe Strummer wrote, “Let fury have the hour/Anger can be power/D’you know that you can use it?”  A lot of us have been feeling anger lately, for a lot of good reasons. The Supreme Court appears to be on the verge of overturning … Continue reading "Episode 15: Anger Can Be Power" The post Episode 15: Anger Can Be Power appeared first on In the Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 14: A Week in Ireland

May 02, 2022 22:44 - 30 minutes - 42.1 MB

In this episode, we talk about our trip to Dublin, Ireland last week to celebrate David’s 60th birthday, and reconnecting with our cultural heritage as Irish Americans. We spent most of our time south of the River Liffey in the city center, where many of the major cultural attractions are located (including the seat of … Continue reading "Episode 14: A Week in Ireland" The post Episode 14: A Week in Ireland appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 13: Making It Work

April 20, 2022 01:29 - 30 minutes - 41.4 MB

In this episode, we talk about managing a successful mixed-orientation marriage in difficult times when the rights of the LGBTQ+ community are increasingly under attack. Although as a community and a country we’ve made tremendous strides over the past 30 years or so, progress is never smooth and linear, and when society backslides on our … Continue reading "Episode 13: Making It Work" The post Episode 13: Making It Work appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 12: Going Viral!

April 12, 2022 02:39 - 29 minutes - 40.4 MB

On this week’s show, we have news about our upcoming appearances on Jesse Jackson’s Set Lusting Bruce podcast (David’s episode will post on 4/13/22 and Jennifer’s on 4/14/22 — please check them out!) and the great conversations we had, and we also revisit the video we made for Transgender Day of Visibility (check that out, … Continue reading "Episode 12: Going Viral!" The post Episode 12: Going Viral! appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 11: Our Favorite Artists

March 29, 2022 02:12 - 30 minutes - 41.3 MB

On this week’s show, in light of the unexpected, tragic death of the Foo Fighters’ beloved drummer, Taylor Hawkins, and our upcoming appearances on Jesse Jackson’s Set Lusting Bruce podcast, we talk about some of our favorite musicians and bands — artists who are not only incredibly talented, but also genuinely decent and compassionate people: … Continue reading "Episode 11: Our Favorite Artists" The post Episode 11: Our Favorite Artists appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 10: Fighting the Good Fight on St. Patrick’s Day and Beyond

March 22, 2022 02:03 - 30 minutes - 41.3 MB

On this week’s show, we talk about a lawyer’s lawsuit against the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission to get them to recognize that discrimination against transgender and nonbinary people is a form of lawyer misconduct (and some good news on that front!), what the legacy of being Irish in America should be (courtesy of … Continue reading "Episode 10: Fighting the Good Fight on St. Patrick’s Day and Beyond" The post Episode 10: Fighting the Good Fight on St. Patrick’...

Episode 9: Give Us a Break!

March 15, 2022 02:54 - 28 minutes - 39.6 MB

On this week’s show, we talk about our 27th anniversary (!) and what it’s like to have a successful mixed-orientation marriage, especially in these bizarre times. We also talk about the current onslaught of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation around the country, from Florida to Texas to Idaho, and the toll it takes on the mental health of … Continue reading "Episode 9: Give Us a Break!" The post Episode 9: Give Us a Break! appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 8: Casimir Pulaski Day

March 08, 2022 02:52 - 27 minutes - 37.4 MB

On this week’s show, we talk about Dave’s appearance on Jesse Jackson’s Set Lusting Bruce podcast, the podcast of all things Springsteen. Dave and Jesse recorded the podcast last week and the episode will likely be posted in early April (watch this space for updates and a link when posted). In other podcast news … … Continue reading "Episode 8: Casimir Pulaski Day" The post Episode 8: Casimir Pulaski Day appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 7: The Wild, the Innocent, and the Springsteen Podcast

March 01, 2022 04:04 - 24 minutes - 33.1 MB

Hello! We are finally back after an extended holiday (and post-holiday) break!  On this week’s show, we talk about Dave’s upcoming appearance on Jesse Jackson’s Set Lusting Bruce podcast, the podcast of all things Springsteen. Looking forward to this momentous occasion, we delve into why Bruce, seemingly the most hetero of artists, nevertheless has a … Continue reading "Episode 7: The Wild, the Innocent, and the Springsteen Podcast" The post Episode 7: The Wild, the Innocent, and the Spri...

Happy Holidays!

December 25, 2021 21:39 - 262 MB Video

Merry Christmas to those who celebrate, happy holidays, and a very happy New Year to all. Hopefully you were able to celebrate safely with supportive friends and family. We recorded this video greeting last night — apologies for the sloppy guitar playing, but we had to give a nod to the late, great John Prine, … Continue reading "Happy Holidays!" The post Happy Holidays! appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 6: Thanksgiving Wrap Up; Holidays and Hard Conversations

November 30, 2021 02:26 - 30 minutes - 42.1 MB

In this episode, we recap our Thanksgiving holiday and look forward to the rest of the holiday season … not without some trepidation. As we discussed in our last episode, this time of year can be difficult for LGBTQ+ folks, including those of us in mixed-orientation relationships. Thinking of how to deal with the holidays … Continue reading "Episode 6: Thanksgiving Wrap Up; Holidays and Hard Conversations" The post Episode 6: Thanksgiving Wrap Up; Holidays and Hard Conversations appeared ...

Episode 5: Happy Thanksgiving!

November 25, 2021 03:14 - 29 minutes - 41 MB

On this special holiday edition of our podcast, we talk about how we met in a bar in Forest Park, Illinois, 28 years ago on the night before Thanksgiving, and began this crazy journey. On a more serious note, we also talk about the challenges people face during the holiday season, and especially the challenges … Continue reading "Episode 5: Happy Thanksgiving!" The post Episode 5: Happy Thanksgiving! appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 4: Transgender Awareness Week; Challenges in Mixed-Orientation Relationships

November 16, 2021 03:07 - 31 minutes - 43.2 MB

In this episode we celebrate Transgender Awareness Week, talk about changing names and gender markers on identification documents, and give a shout-out to these great organizations fighting for the rights of transgender, nonbinary, and gender-nonconforming people everywhere: Gender Justice in Minneapolis, Minnesota The National Center for Transgender Equality (NCTE) — please note the correct URL … Continue reading "Episode 4: Transgender Awareness Week; Challenges in Mixed-Orientation Rela...

Episode 3: Stereotypes and Expectations

November 08, 2021 23:28 - 30 minutes - 41.7 MB

In this episode, we circle back to our discussion of stereotypes in Episode 2 to dive a little deeper. As we observed last week, despite a person’s best intentions, there really are no “good” stereotypes. While a person’s intent is important, equally if not more important is the way that person’s messages are received: You … Continue reading "Episode 3: Stereotypes and Expectations" The post Episode 3: Stereotypes and Expectations appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 2: Everyone Has an Origin Story

November 01, 2021 23:00 - 30 minutes - 41.7 MB

In this week’s episode, we talk about how we got here and how difficult it can be for a person to accept their truth in the face of anti-LGBTQ+ prejudice. In that context, we share memories of Elton John’s journey from seemingly straight rock star to out-and-proud gay icon, a journey that resonates with us … Continue reading "Episode 2: Everyone Has an Origin Story" The post Episode 2: Everyone Has an Origin Story appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

Episode 1: Welcome to Our Podcast

October 25, 2021 20:22 - 29 minutes - 40.3 MB

Welcome to the inaugural episode of our podcast. We are an older married couple from the Chicago area, but our relationship is not what you might expect. We are, for lack of a better term, in a mixed-orientation marriage. Our hope is that, through this podcast, we can demystify nontraditional marriages and relationships and expand … Continue reading "Episode 1: Welcome to Our Podcast" The post Episode 1: Welcome to Our Podcast appeared first on In Shadow of the Evening Trees.

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